Wind and Wuthering (1/1/77-3/7/77)

   

      
      
      

 

 


As always, see anything you like, email me. All boots are listed in chronological order, and all are on Audio CD-R unless I say otherwise. All dates are written in the European style, as in day/month/year. Click on the text links below to scroll directly to the entry you're interested in.

 

Tour Summary and Menu

Wot Gorilla Lilith?, 1/1/77 (Rainbow Theatre)

A Living Story, 2/1/77 (Rainbow Theatre)

A Living Story (upgrade), 2/1/77 (London)

Rainbow '77 WNEW, 2/1/77 (London)

BURP 17, 2/1/77 (Rainbow Theatre, London)

No Gorilla For the Vine (CF), 2/1/77 (Rainbow Theatre, London)

Live in London (TM), 3/1/77 (Rainbow Theatre, London)

Manchester '77 (first night), 10/1/77 (Free Trade Hall)

Southampton '77, 20/1/77 (Gaumont Theatre, Southampton)

In Our Own Special Way (CF), 20/1/77 (Gaumont Theatre)

De Montfort '77, 22/1/77 (De Montfort Hall, Leicester)

Water and Wrecking, 6/2/77 (Kiel Opera House, St. Louis)

Kiel '77, 6/2/77 (Kiel Opera House, St. Louis Missouri)

BURP 28, 6/2/77 (Kiel Opera House, St. Louis MO)

Wind at the Orpheum (GRU06), 8/2/77 (Minneapolis, MN)

Detroit '77, 12/2/77 (Masonic Auditorium, Detroit)

Happy Birthday Steve, 12/2/77 (Masonic Auditorium, Detroit)

Chicago '77, 16/2/77 (Auditorium Theatre, Chicago IL)

SAB 07, 16/2/77 (Auditorium Theatre, Chicago IL)

MSG '77, 23/2/77 (Madison Square Garden, NYC NY)

Winds Over NY City (PRRPGS003), 23/2/77 (MSG, NY)

A Layer of Gold, 24/2/77 (Music Hall, Boston Mass.)

Drums in Buffalo, 28/2/77 (Memorial Auditorium, NY)

Afterglow in Quebec, 3/3/77 (Colisee de Quebec, Canada)

Philly '77, 8/3/77 (Spectrum, Philadelphia PA)

Baltimore '77, 9/3/77 (Civic Center, Baltimore MD)

Second Nature, 13/3/77 (Fox Theatre, Atlanta Georgia)

Los Angeles '77, 24/3/77 (Forum, Los Angeles CA)

San Francisco '77, 25/3/77 (Winterland Arena, CA)

Winterland '77, 25/3/77 (Winterland Arena, CA)

BURP 33, 24&27/3/77 (Forum, LA; Sports Center, San Diego CA)

Just a Pool of Tears, 2 (or 3)/4/77 (Coliseum, Vancouver)

Brazil '77, 15/5/77 (Maracananzinho Stadium, Rio de Janeiro)

BURP 18, 21/5/77 (Ibirapuera Stadium, Sao Paulo Brazil)

Stockholm '77, 4/6/77 (Isstadion, Stockholm Sweden)

Cologne '77, 17/6/77 (Muengersdorfer Sportstadion)

Cologne '77(upgrade), 17/6/77 (Muengersdorfer Sportstadion)

Offenbach '77, 19/6/77 (Stadion Bieberer Berg, Offenbach)

Living Revelations, 24/6/77 (Earls Court, London)

Before Riches, 24/6/77 (Earls Court, London)

SAB 01 v2, 24/6/77 (Earls Court, London)

Earls Court '77 (last night), 25/6/77 (London)

Zurich '77 (GRU02), 2/7/77 (Hallenstadion, Zurich Switzerland)

Zurich Revisited (Digital Bros.), 2/7/77 (Hallenstadion)

Munich '77, 3/7/77 (Olympiahalle, Munich Germany)

 

Wot Gorilla Lilith?

1/1/77

 

1-01 Eleventh Earl of Mar (8:30)
1-02 The Carpet Crawlers (6:08)
1-03 Firth of Fifth (9:30)
1-04 Your Own Special Way (7:09)
1-05 Robbery, Assault and Battery (6:56)
1-06 "...in that quiet earth." (4:29)
1-07 Afterglow (4:55)
1-08 Lilywhite Lilith/The Waiting Room (intro) (3:35)
1-09 Wot Gorilla? (3:27)
1-10 One For the Vine (10:58)
1-11 Squonk (6:28)

2-1 All in a Mouse's Night (9:31)
2-2 Supper's Ready (22:38)
2-3 I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (7:24)
2-4 Dance on a Volcano (1:55)
2-5 Inside and Out (13 June) (7:14)
2-6 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway/The Musical Box (closing section) (13 June) (8:05)

Type/Quality: Audience/Fair-Good

Comments: From the very first show of the Wind and Wuthering tour, the first of three nights at the Rainbow Theatre in London. This is Chester Thompson's first live performance as a member of Genesis, one for which he received one of his worst reviews ever, poor guy. This is a very complete representation of their set list for this tour, since in addition to the main show it includes some bonus tracks from 13/6/77: "Inside and Out," a song played only on this tour, and the usual 1977 encore of "Lamb/Box." After playing "Inside and Out" on this recording, Phil says "Merci, Paris! Au revoir!" This helps nail the venue for these songs. This is my only material from 13/6, part of the range of Paris dates from which the Seconds Out live album supposedly come from. These tracks are from a radio broadcast.

The rest of the recording is definitely audience-sourced and from the date stated, as at least one of the band members wishes the audience a "Happy New Year," and near the end Phil mentions that it is the first show from the tour for the new album. The only song that they played on this tour (albeit very rarely, only at their three shows in Earl's Court at the end of June) that is not represented here is "The Knife."

Now for specifics and notes on the quality of the recording. I've always been rather confused about this one, because almost every comment I've seen on this show rates it as "very good," and I certainly have never heard that on my copy. The sound has static, is wavery, muffled, and the reverb on the vocals makes them very indistinct and hard to make out, especially on the intros to the songs (though if you listen carefully enough and have an idea of what they're going to say, they're intelligible). Plus the audio has a habit of suddenly becoming very very low in volume, and then slowly creeping back up to the normal level again (probably due to microphone bumps or the taper having to hide the microphone). This happens three times that I heard; once during "...in that quiet earth," once during "Squonk," and once during the very beginning of the "Apocalypse in 9/8" portion of "Supper's Ready."

There are the rather usual interjections by audience members, and one notable instance of someone (probably the taper) coughing into the mic in the opening section of "Supper's Ready." Also in "Supper," the final verse in the "Ikhnaton and Itsacon" section is missing its first few lines, and cuts straight from the triumphant guitar riff to the line "...has come from our war lord." There is a long pause in "Afterglow," but after the pause the song picks up where it left off. There is a smaller lapse in "One For the Vine," right after the line "and vanished into the air," and some of the music is missing. Unforunately, as you'll notice above, there's only about two minutes of "Volcano" on here; it fades away during the second chorus. And yet people still call this a "very good" recording. Well, it's possible mine is several generations removed from being all that it can be, but it's also worth it to note that my track times exactly match those of other people's for this show. I also had tougher ratings when I first listened to this show. The sound is really quite distinguishable, and while it has momentary problems it could be much worse.

It's also valuable for its unique qualities: it's the first show of the tour, the first show with Chester, and has the only performance of the "Lilywhite Lilith/Waiting Room/Wot Gorilla?" medley, which is considered important enough by some that the boot was named after it--not to mention the inclusion of "Inside and Out."

There are some interesting introductions to songs on here. Steve Hackett introduces "Firth of Fifth," and Mike Rutherford introduces both "...in that quiet earth" and "Squonk." After "Wot Gorilla?" Phil introduces Chester Thompson to the audience. This song and the one before it, by the way, are basically one medley (as I intimated above); "The Waiting Room" makes only a very fleeting appearance on the two tracks, providing a few-second-long link between "Lilith" and "Gorilla," and re-appearing slightly at the end of "Gorilla." It's an interesting combination that makes me appreciate "Gorilla" a bit more (though clearly the band did not agree, since they never played it again). Phil tells the Romeo and Juliet story for "Supper's Ready." You can hear what sounds like a female Genesis fan quickly shout "Steve Hackett rules!" right before "Your Own Special Way."

 

A Living Story

2/1/77

 
01 Squonk (6:39)
02 All in a Mouse's Night (6:35)
03 Eleventh Earl of Mar (7:33)
04 One for the Vine (10:31)
05 I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (8:17)
Shrine Auditorium, 24/1/75:
06 Watcher of the Skies (7:58)
07 Lilywhite Lilith (2:59)
08 The Waiting Room (6:17)
09 Anyway (3:38)
10 It (4:08)
11 The Musical Box (11:27)

Type/Quality: Radio/Very Good

Comments: (I have better versions of the Rainbow material below.) This is a few cuts from the second night of the WW tour, the second show with Chester on drums (their first three nights of that tour were at the Rainbow Theatre). No more than this exist, because this is as much as the radio broadcast; except a version of "In that Quiet Earth/Afterglow," which was originally broadcast but for various reasons (best explained by David Dunnington) used to be hard to find (see following entries, however). To fill out the disc, some cuts from the Shrine Auditorium Lamb show have been appended to it. I have these exact same tracks on the bootleg Twilight Alehouse, a couple on an Empire Pool boot, one or two on compilation discs, this version, as well as a few of them on the Archive 1 box set, as this is the same show used on those first two discs. These sound better than the Twilight Alehouse versions. They have more depth and purity and they don't have the speed problems of Twilight. I also already have this "All in a Mouse's Night" on my second self-made compilation disc. It's probably one of the best live versions of the song out there, as they didn't play it much, and the quality of this whole disc is really quite good. There are one or two pops in both sections, possibly a few more in the Shrine Auditorium part, and some low hiss in both. But even with these (negligible) problems, the sound borders on Excellent, and I don't think even the band would have too much of a problem with the quality on here. As a last note, a small riff from "Moonlit Knight" is played in IKWIL right before the "Stagnation" theme kicks in, which seems to have happened fairly often on the '77 tour.

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A Living Story (upgrade)

2/1/77

1 Squonk (6:39)
2 '...in that quiet earth.'/Afterglow (9:21)
3 One For the Vine (10:31)
4 All in a Mouse's Night (6:35)
5 Eleventh Earl of Mar (7:33)
6 I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (8:17)

Type/Quality: Radio/Very Good

Comments: This is a sort of upgrade to the previous entry, at least in the area of Rainbow Theatre tracks (but still not as good as the BURP version, two entries down). Actually according to Dunnington there is no surety that the date always attributed to this material is correct, or even the venue, as the only info we have for those comes from KBFH--an organization not known for accuracy in dating. However we have to stay with it as it's all we've got. Anyways, though most boots of this show are missing "In That Quiet Earth/Afterglow," it was originally broadcast on the radio, and originally released on bootleg as well before being taken out. I have managed to obtain a copy of the song, taped off the radio by the person I traded with to get it. The quality is not perfect (there is a short burst of interference right near the end of "Afterglow"), but it doesn't differ much from the rest of the material on this disc, all of which simply comes from the previous entry. (If you're wondering why I didn't keep the Shrine Auditorium tracks and just tack on the new song, it's because it wouldn't have fit on one disc! Better to have just the Rainbow tracks on one disc anyway, IMO.) I've re-ordered it to reflect the order of the original radio broadcast. I don't know whether this order is how the original show was played--in fact, I highly doubt it. But this is only the second gig of the tour (supposedly), so really there's no telling what the correct order would be, so I just went with the radio broadcast order. Nice to have the full broadcast. But really, if you want this material you should check out the BURP entry below, and the Coaster Factory remaster below that.

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Rainbow '77 WNEW

2/1/77

1 One For the Vine (10:45)
2 Eleventh Earl of Mar (7:45)
3 I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (6:55)

Type/Quality: Radio/Very Good-Good

Comments: (See next two entries for superior versions of this material.) This copy of the Rainbow material was given to me by someone I work with--he had taped it off the radio himself when it was originally broadcast. He had no idea what the date of the performance was but I managed to match it with my existing copies of material from this date. Based on the information he gave me and a look at Dunnington's radio show guide, I'm fairly certain this is a WNEW broadcast.

Obviously this is not the ideal version of this broadcast--it is only three songs, with no announcements between. What is here is probably cleaner-sounding than the previous entries, with no pops or crackles, but the volume is very low and I suspect the speed is a bit slow. I include it here for the sake of completeness and since it is an interesting artifact.

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BURP 17

2/1/77

01 Introduction (0:26)
02 Ad (Toyota) (0:58)
03 Ad (Pioneer) (0:59)
04
Squonk (6:51)
05 '...in that quiet earth.' (4:40)
06 Afterglow (4:11)
07 One For the Vine (10:03)
08 All in a Mouse's Night (6:35)
09 Eleventh Earl of Mar (7:41)
10 I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (8:15)
11 Ad (Pioneer) (1:00)
12 Ad (Toyota) (1:00)
13 Conclusion (0:29)

Type/Quality: Radio/Excellent-Very Good

Comments: This copy of the British Biscuit broadcast of the Rainbow Theatre material is most likely the definitive one (well, maybe not--see the next entry). This is an astoundingly clear remaster with all the broadcast tracks, and it even includes the announcer at the beginning and end--and the original 1977 radio ads (the show was sponsored by Toyota and Pioneer). In fact, it's very interesting to hear the radio jingles of 1977--they are distinctly '70s in sound and humorously dated (one might describe Genesis music in exactly the same way...but not me!). All my previous versions of this music sounded very good, but still had a bit of noise in the background; this one sounds pretty much perfect. I don't know what else to say about it, actually, so let's leave it at that. Well, I'd better mention that the original version of this I received had split-second pauses on it--I have since removed them (given the nature of the recording, they weren't very noticeable anyway). As a final note I would also like to point out a piece of analysis that I never noticed in my previous reviews of this material, and that is that nearly all of the songs chosen for broadcast from this show are songs from the then-new Wind and Wuthering album. "Squonk" is also still a relatively new Genesis song, having come from the previous year's LP, and the only song played from before '76 is IKWIL. I just find it interesting that the Biscuit was emphasizing the new material like that, though I suppose it makes sense from the standpoint of product sales.

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No Gorilla For the Vine (Coaster Factory)

2/1/77

1 Squonk (6:55)
2 '...in that quiet earth.' (4:43)
3 Afterglow (4:09)
4 One For the Vine (9:56)
5 All in a Mouse's Night (6:33)
6 Eleventh Earl of Mar (7:33)
7 I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (8:11)

Type/Quality: Radio/Excellent

Comments: This Coaster Factory remaster of the oft-heard Rainbow broadcast comes from pre-FM sources. If you found the advertisements of the BURP version irritating, good news! This one is ad-free and sounds excellent.

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Live in London (TM Productions)

3/1/77

1-1 Eleventh Earl of Mar (8:25)
1-2 The Carpet Crawlers (6:29)
1-3 Robbery, Assault and Battery (6:27)
1-4 Your Own Special Way (6:10)
1-5 Squonk (7:20)
1-6 One For the Vine (10:51)
1-7 Firth of Fifth (9:37)
1-8 All in a Mouse's Night (6:30)

2-1 Intro: Supper (1:27)
2-2 Supper's Ready (24:21)
2-3 I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (7:43)
2-4 Dance on a Volcano (4:21)
2-5 Los Endos (5:47)
2-6 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (4:41)
2-7 The Musical Box (closing section) (3:03)

Type/Quality: Soundboard/Very Good

Comments: For the longest time, the opening three gigs of the WW tour, all played at the Rainbow Theatre in London at the very beginning of 1977, were only spottily represented by an incomplete and lousy sounding audience recording and a very incomplete radio show. Now, with the release of this soundboard show from the third and last night of the Rainbow gigs, we finally get a good complete example of a very early '77 show. This particular version is remastered by TM Productions.

The set list is highly unusual, even considering that it comes at the beginning of a tour when the list had yet to get really decided. Another mitigating factor is that Genesis had been playing the same venue for three nights straight and didn't want people coming to multiple performances to get bored. Even so, it is strange to see things like "Supper" coming before IKWIL, and the complete absence of ITQE and "Afterglow" (it's possible, I suppose, that this isn't as complete as I think it is).

As to the performance itself, I think it could be better, but I do cut them a break since it's the beginning of the tour. In fact, remember that this is Chester Thompson's third gig only as a member of Genesis! Listening to this show, I couldn't help but remember the story that the reviews of Chester's first show with the band were the worst he ever received. I think this may have colored my perceptions in this case, but it seemed to me that the drums did seem a bit awkward in places. Mike does not tell the mermaid story before "Your Own Special Way," instead mentioning that it is a straight love song. Again unusually, Mike does an intro for "One For the Vine." He starts talking about the band's previous trips to the Rainbow, and just at the point when he is mentioning the technical problems they used to have and relating that to the present moment, whatever was going wrong is cleared up and the song begins.

There is no doubt as to the authenticity of this recording--it seems like every member of the band at some point or other mentions that they are at the Rainbow, that it is the third night there, and wishes everyone a belated Happy New Year.

The very beginning of Phil's talk before he really begins the story for "Supper's Ready" is clipped. Phil does not tell the story well--he would get better at it. Regardless, it's very cool to finally have a nice recording from this early in the tour, and I wouldn't want to be without this recording in my collection.

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Manchester '77 (first night)

10/1/77

1-1 Squonk (7:00)
1-2 One For the Vine (11:25)
1-3 Robbery, Assault and Battery (7:16)
1-4 Your Own Special Way (7:16)
1-5 '...in that quiet earth.' (4:47)
1-6 Afterglow (4:30)
1-7 I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (8:56)
1-8 Eleventh Earl of Mar (8:22)
1-9 The Carpet Crawlers (5:25)

2-1 All in a Mouse's Night (8:47)
2-2
Firth of Fifth (10:25)
2-3
Supper's Ready (24:29)
2-4 Dance on a Volcano (4:26)
2-5 Drum Duet (0:39)
2-6 Los Endos (6:39)
2-7 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway/The Musical Box (closing section) (8:19)

Type/Quality: Audience/Fair-Good

Comments: At the Free Trade Hall in Manchester, this is the first of a two-night run at the same venue. According to Simon's site, this version is the better-sounding of the versions of this particular show. Frankly, I'd hate to have to listen to the other ones, because this one isn't so hot. The sound is very low, dull, and at times very hissy. My original version of this also contained skips and errors in multiple songs, but fortunately I have since obtained a copy without those errors.

This is a very early show for this tour, so the set is fairly strange--note FoF comes directly before "Supper." There is no dancing in Mike's intro for "Your Own Special Way," and he just mentions that the song is about a sailor away at sea. When they try to start the song, Mike's guitar makes an inappropriate noise. Phil quips: "Unfortunately this is one of the songs you have to be in tune for...It was in tune when he bought it!" There is a small pause while the problem is fixed.

Phil tells a story about the lowly mouse before "All in a Mouse's Night," a fairly rare live number. In the Romeo and Juliet story before "Supper," Juliet is wearing a plastic Mack and a vest. In an interesting variation from the later versions of the story, Juliet gets tied up in the back seat instead of to the steering wheel. The hiss, usually a very obvious force in the recording, suddenly drops almost totally out of hearing in the transition out of "Willow Farm" and into "Apocalypse" in "Supper." This may signal a tape flip and a small cut in the recording, but at least the hiss seems to be gone for the rest of the show.

It's nice to have a recording to fill my gap in early WW tour recordings, but this one could sound better.

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Southampton '77

20/1/77

1-1 Squonk (6:15)
1-2 One For the Vine (10:30)
1-3 Robbery, Assault and Battery (7:22)
1-4 Your Own Special Way (7:03)
1-5 Firth of Fifth (9:11)
1-6 '...in that quiet earth.' (5:30)
1-7 Afterglow (4:12)
1-8 I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (8:43)
1-9 Eleventh Earl of Mar (8:11)

2-1 The Carpet Crawlers (6:23)
2-2
All in a Mouse's Night (7:45)
2-3
Supper's Ready (25:21)
2-4 Dance on a Volcano/Drum Duet (5:33)
2-5 Los Endos (5:51)
2-6 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway/The Musical Box (closing section) (8:06)

Type/Quality: Soundboard/Very Good

Comments: (See next entry for an even better version of this show.) The second night in a row played at the Gaumont Theatre in Southampton, this is a soundboard recording released to the general trading public around the end of 2002. It is a complete show in great quality, with no cuts or errors. It features probably the best live recording of the somewhat rare "All in a Mouse's Night." There's a bit of hiss, and maybe some low pops every once in a long while, but this is pretty much a perfect show. The only problem it used to have was that there were rather inexplicable breaks in the recording which occurred several times throughout the show, always during audience applause. In my version I have removed all of these breaks, and also re-tracked the break between "Volcano" and "Endos."

Phil claims that this show was broadcast to local area hospitals. Phil tells the story for "Your Own Special Way," which is a bit odd as usually this was Mike's job (Mike still does the intro for "Mar"). "In That Quiet Earth" in particular is totally rocking. There's an interesting percussion intro to IKWIL--I know there's always a percussion intro to this song, but this one sounds a bit more creative than Chester normally was. IKWIL features the tiny riff from "Moonlit Knight" which Steve liked to stick in there, as well as the more normal bit from "Stagnation." Phil tells a good story for "Mouse," casting each band member as a different type of animal. This is a real gem of a show, and I'm glad it's finally made its way into the hands of regular collectors.

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In Our Own Special Way (CF)

20/1/77

 

1-01 Squonk (6:17)
1-02 Intro: Vine (0:31)
1-03 One For the Vine (10:14)
1-04 Intro: Robbery (1:04)
1-05 Robbery, Assault and Battery (6:01)
1-06 Intro: Special (0:48)
1-07 Your Own Special Way (6:20)
1-08 Intro: Firth (0:32)
1-09 Firth of Fifth (8:34)
1-10 Band Introduction (0:51)
1-11 '...in that quiet earth.' (4:44)
1-12 Afterglow (4:19)
1-13 I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (8:23)

2-01 Intro: Earl (0:42)
2-02
Eleventh Earl of Mar (7:37)
2-03
Intro: Crawlers (0:49)
2-04 The Carpet Crawlers (5:25)
2-05 Intro: Mouse (1:16)
2-06 All in a Mouse's Night (6:25)
2-07 Intro: Supper (1:29)
2-08 Supper's Ready (24:17)
2-09 Dance on a Volcano/Drum Duet (5:12)
2-10 Los Endos (5:42)
2-11 Intro: Encore (0:37)
2-12 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway/The Musical Box (closing section) (7:40)

Type/Quality: Soundboard/Very Good-Excellent

Comments: This is the Coaster Factory remaster of the Southampton show. There are other versions, but some have said that this is the best. The hiss and pops of the original have been cleaned up and the sound is basically official live album quality. A channel drop in "Crawlers" has been fixed on this version. The sound is excellent, apart from a slight digital distortion which is only noticeable on quieter parts of the recording (such as the song intros). The artwork was made by me and is available on The Movement.

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De Montfort '77

22/1/77

1-1 Squonk (6:18)
1-2 One For the Vine (10:52)
1-3 Robbery, Assault and Battery (5:36)
1-4 I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (7:57)
1-5 Firth of Fifth (8:40)
1-6 '...in that quiet earth.' (4:23)
1-7 Afterglow (4:27)
1-8 Eleventh Earl of Mar (7:42)

2-1 Supper's Ready (24:47)
2-2 All in a Mouse's Night (7:14)
2-3 Dance on a Volcano/Drum Duet (4:59)
2-4 Los Endos (5:55)
2-5 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway/The Musical Box (closing section) (7:28)

Type/Quality: Audience/Fair-Good

Comments: At the De Montfort Hall in Leicester, this was the second of two days in a row at this venue. This is from early in the tour and has a unique set ordering with the fairly rare playing of "All in a Mouse's Night." I've reburned and retracked this one, so it doesn't quite match the tracking and track times of other versions (the copy I was given had tiny pauses, which I have removed here). There's some hiss in this, and the quality could be better. The show starts just a few seconds into "Squonk." The volume seems to go up during FoF. The speed could be a bit fast. There was a small break in the FoF solo, but I have repaired this problem. In the Romeo and Juliet intro for "Supper," the story has the distinction of having Juliet ask Romeo out instead of the other way around. All the intros are told in sort of a rush, as though time were an issue--this could just be because the recording is a bit fast. This is a full show with no discernible cuts. It seems to be missing "Crawlers" and "Your Own Special Way," but it's possible those numbers were not played for some reason (they do not appear on the 21/1 performance boot either). One of the most interesting things about this different set order is that IKWIL is played so early in the set--in place of the more usual "Your Own Special Way."

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Water and Wrecking

6/2/77

1 Squonk (6:22)
2 One For the Vine (9:56)
3 Robbery, Assault and Battery (5:57)
4 Your Own Special Way (6:15)
5 The Carpet Crawlers (5:07)
6 Afterglow (3:47)
7 I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (7:52)
8 Supper's Ready (23:57)
9 Dance on a Volcano/Drum Duet/Los Endos (incomplete) (8:22)

Type/Quality: Soundboard/Very Good-Good

Comments: At the Kiel Opera House (or Auditorium, depending on who you ask) in St. Louis, Missouri (I have better versions of this gig below). This is clearly an incomplete show, but it's from a soundboard recording. There are other versions of this recording (like the next entry) which also include "Eleventh Earl of Mar" and an incomplete version of the "Lamb/Box" encore, but this is the original Highland boot, which is missing those. The sound is very interesting--soundboard shows always sound totally different than audience shows, and this one is no exception. It's a bit dull, and of course the audience is inaudible. The mix seems wrong. For most of the songs, Mike's bass guitar is very high in the mix. During "Your Own Special Way," the keyboards seem WAY too high in the mix--but I think that's just my own opinion on Tony's choice of sound. There is a long silence after the first song. "Los Endos" is not complete. You'll also notice that "In That Quiet Earth" is missing from the beginning of "Afterglow." I think this is due to a cut in the recording. There were a few shows on this tour where "In That Quiet Earth" was intentionally not performed by the band, but I don't think this was one of those shows.

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Kiel '77

6/2/77

1-1 Squonk (6:10)
1-2 One For the Vine (9:50)
1-3 Robbery, Assault and Battery (5:57)
1-4 Your Own Special Way (6:15)
1-5 The Carpet Crawlers (5:08)
1-6 Afterglow (3:47)
1-7 I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (7:58)

2-1 Eleventh Earl of Mar (7:40)
2-2 Supper's Ready (24:03)
2-3 Dance on a Volcano (4:13)
2-4 Drum Duet (0:51)
2-5 Los Endos (incomplete) (3:25)
2-6 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (4:38)
2-7 The Musical Box (closing section)(incomplete)(0:26)

Type/Quality: Soundboard/Very Good-Good

Comments: At the Kiel Opera House (or Auditorium) in St. Louis, Missouri, this is a slightly better version than Water and Wrecking, above (see the BURP version, below, however). For one thing, this one has "Eleventh Earl of Mar" and most of the encore number, which the first version does not. For another, the sound is slightly better--louder, fuller, deeper. The mix is still odd--this is definitely a good one for those of you who are fans of the bass guitar. It's very high in the mix. The audience is so totally non-existent that 90% of the time the band might as well be playing live in a studio--that's how it sounds. The volume I believe sort of goes up and down in waves, though not so much that it's really noticeable. There is some hiss. I really like the sound on here, though, on this second listen; it's different than most live shows and you can really hear all the layers of the music. This is quite a valuable show from this tour. "Los Endos" is cut some few seconds before the "Squonk" theme kicks in, and "Box" is cut before Phil even gets to the second "She's a lady." "Eleventh Earl of Mar" starts just a few notes in, fading in at the beginning of the second disc. All of the song intros and all of the stuff between songs has been removed. On my original version of this show (which matched Simon's third version of this gig on his site), "Squonk" started more than a few seconds into the song and faded in. On listening to Water and Wrecking again, I discovered that its "Squonk" had the whole beginning, including even the count-in. I have therefore patched on the beginning of the song for this version, making what is probably the most complete version available.

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BURP 28

6/2/77

1-1 Squonk (6:08)
1-2 One For the Vine (9:50)
1-3 Robbery, Assault and Battery (5:57)
1-4 Your Own Special Way (6:13)
1-5 The Carpet Crawlers (5:11)
1-6 Afterglow (3:48)
1-7 I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (7:54)

2-1 Eleventh Earl of Mar (7:38)
2-2 Supper's Ready (24:02)
2-3 Dance on a Volcano (4:12)
2-4 Drum Duet (0:52)
2-5 Los Endos (incomplete) (3:25)
2-6 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (4:46)
2-7 The Musical Box (closing section)(incomplete)(0:15)

Type/Quality: Soundboard/Very Good

Comments: At the Kiel Opera House (or Auditorium) in St. Louis, Missouri, this is a cleaned-up version of the Kiel '77 show above. A cursory look at the track times will show that what the BURP people most likely did was to pick up the normal Kiel '77 show and take away a bit of the rough edges from the recording. The result is a nice upgrade. I was rather effusive over this recording in my last entry, but having listened to it again this time around, I realize it for what it is--a soundboard, but not a very good one. The remaster helps, but this one will always sound a little ragged--and bass-heavy.

Incidentally, my version of BURP 28 is unlike most others, because I have once again (as with the last entry) patched in the beginning of "Squonk" from Highland's Water and Wrecking. It's rather odd that the old Highland version has that opening of the song, whereas the more complete versions always seem to be missing it. However, I have rectified the problem here.

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Wind at the Orpheum (GRU06)

8/2/77

1-1 Squonk (6:53)
1-2 One For the Vine (11:25)
1-3 Robbery, Assault and Battery (7:15)
1-4 Your Own Special Way (7:05)
1-5 Firth of Fifth (9:10)
1-6 The Carpet Crawlers (4:53)
1-7 Band Introduction (1:09)
1-8 '...in that quiet earth.'/Afterglow (8:52)
1-9 I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (7:18)

2-1 Eleventh Earl of Mar (10:03)
2-2 Supper's Ready (24:10)
2-3 Dance on a Volcano/Drum Duet (5:10)
2-4 Los Endos (6:28)
2-5 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (4:37)
2-6 The Musical Box (closing section) (3:11)

Type/Quality: Audience/Good-Very Good

Comments: At the Orpheum Theater in Minneapolis (St. Paul), Minnesota, this is a nice audience remaster. There is some chatter in it, including a fan very close to the microphone who decides to yell "You can't smoke in here!" at a suspected smoker in the middle of "One For the Vine" (this is not the only time he complains about smoking during the show). In Phil's intro for "Robbery," Harry is robbing "Ye Olde Hamburger Shoppe" in Victorian England. The ending few words of CC are cut off. In the intro for "Supper," Juliet is wearing a humorous ensemble consisting of a poncho, thermal underwear, and a pair of boots. There is a small cut in "Supper;" the recording cuts off at "in blood, he's--" and the music does not come back in until after Phil is done singing that line.

So two very small cuts and a bit of audience talking, but other than that this is a nice quality audience recording and a nice full show.

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Detroit '77

12/2/77

1-1 Squonk (6:57)
1-2 One For the Vine (11:39)
1-3 Robbery, Assault and Battery (7:08)
1-4 Your Own Special Way (7:13)
1-5 Firth of Fifth (8:22)
1-6 The Carpet Crawlers (7:34)
1-7 '...in that quiet earth.' (4:45)
1-8 Afterglow/Intro: Supper (6:18)

2-1 Supper's Ready (23:32)
2-2 I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (8:56)
2-3 Eleventh Earl of Mar (8:22)
2-4 Dance on a Volcano/Drum Duet/Los Endos (8:28)
2-5 Los Endos (ending)(2:41)
2-6 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (partial)(1:54)

Type/Quality: Audience/Good

Comments: At the Masonic Auditorium in Detroit Michigan, this show has the rare distinction of being the last of two versions I obtained of the same gig which was actually worse than the first version (usually I get the upgraded version after the inferior one). The reason I tried to obtain this, the more typical version of this show, was in order to confirm that my other version (the next entry) was actually from this date. This inferior recording seems to be the far more common version. There is no doubt that these two recordings come from the same gig: all of the intros are the same. (Ironically, even the track times for this show don't match the one that everyone else has--but the structure of the show is identical, so it must be right, darn it!)

The quality of this show is slightly worse than that of the next one. Other than just not sounding as good, it is also pockmarked with digital stutters. I doubt that most people's versions of this show have this problem. There also seem to be other disruptions, possibly microphone bumps. However, everyone's version of this particular show has the songs in the wrong order ("Supper" is placed before IKWIL and "Mar," even though it should be after) and only gets a bit into the second verse of "Lamb" before cutting off. There are also a couple of cuts in "Supper." But it's hardly worth talking about this show, because the other version is so much better. So go read about that one.

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Happy Birthday Steve

12/2/77

1-1 Squonk (7:51)
1-2 One For the Vine (12:05)
1-3 Robbery, Assault and Battery (7:27)
1-4 Your Own Special Way (7:30)
1-5 Firth of Fifth (9:45)
1-6 The Carpet Crawlers (6:48)
1-7 '...in that quiet earth.' (4:57)
1-8 Afterglow (4:21)
1-9 I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (7:58)

2-1 Eleventh Earl of Mar (11:39)
2-2 Supper's Ready (25:11)
2-3 Dance on a Volcano/Drum Duet (5:30)
2-4 Los Endos (6:03)
2-5 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway/The Musical Box (closing section) (7:44)

Type/Quality: Audience/Good-Very Good

Comments: At the Masonic Auditorium in Detroit Michigan, played on Steve Hackett's 27th birthday. This show is strange, because it's an excellent version of this gig, and not many people seem to have it. It's certain that this is the Detroit '77 show, as I have compared it to the more common entry above and they are clearly from the same gig. Phil, as always charming, leaves little doubt as to the venue/date at various points on this recording. After FoF, you can hear him mention Steve's big day. During the intro for "Robbery" he has Harry the robber robbing a General Motors office (Detroit is Motor City, after all), and before the encore he makes the comment that "Gordie Howe's got nothing on me." Gordie Howe, of course, is a famous hockey player who did a lot of his best work while playing for Detroit's team.

Unlike the first version, which has multiple cuts and does not sound so great, this version has surprisingly clear sound and not a single noticeable cut in any song. The trader I got it from received it as a weed which he got from genesis-trades mailing list.

Anyway, let's talk about quality and content. As I said, the sound is really quite nice, but it does suffer from volume changes. The first song in particular has volume dips scattered through it. Between FoF and Phil's announcement of Steve's birthday there is a cut. Probably due to the fact that this was a heavily weeded recording before it got to me, there were originally irreparable skips throughout the last minute of IKWIL. An unfortunate error, but fortunately when I obtained the above entry I was able to patch in the last couple minutes from that version and now there are no skips. You can hear the change in quality when the source recordings shift, but at least the errors are gone. At the beginning of the Romeo and Juliet story introducing "Supper," the volume suddenly gets much lower and the sound becomes more muffled. It basically remains that way for the rest of the recording, though I found that one quickly gets used to it and that once you turn up your volume you should have little problem adjusting.

My original version of this show had a very strange error which I'd like to relate, if only for curiosity's sake, as it is unique in my experience of bootlegs. The original track 5 of disc 2 was over 20 minutes long. It included the "Lamb/Box" encore, but this was followed by several minutes of total silence, after which the disc seemed to begin again--the entire song of "Eleventh Earl of Mar" was repeated before the disc finally ended. I know of no burner software which could possibly make such an error, and I can hardly even hazard a theory as to how this could have come about. I was easily able to fix this strange problem by simply cutting off all of the extra stuff on the last track.

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Chicago '77

16/2/77

1-1 Intro/Squonk (8:28)
1-2 One For the Vine (11:46)
1-3 Robbery, Assault and Battery (7:34)
1-4 Your Own Special Way (7:46)
1-5 Firth of Fifth (9:39)
1-6 The Carpet Crawlers (6:55)
1-7 '...in that quiet earth.'/Afterglow (9:20)
1-8 I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (9:00)

2-1 Eleventh Earl of Mar (8:27)
2-2 Supper's Ready (25:42)
2-3 Dance on a Volcano/Drum Duet (6:02)
2-4 Los Endos (5:50)
2-5 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (5:12)
2-6 The Musical Box (closing section) (3:02)

Type/Quality: Radio/Very Good-Good

Comments: (See the remaster of this show, next entry.) Recorded from the Auditorium Theatre in Chicago. A much-bootlegged radio show, also known as Chicago on the Air and Live in Chicago. The quality is great; there's a little bit of static at the very beginning of "Los Endos" and "The Musical Box." There is a short, inexplicable noise at the end of FoF. This show came in the middle of a three-day stint at the Auditorium Theatre, but this was the only show to be broadcast over the radio. An announcer presumably from the radio station is on stage to introduce Genesis at the beginning of the show. A nice show from this tour. This version of "Your Own Special Way" (which Mike prefaces with a "Sea Shanty" about "Myrtle the Mermaid" which gives Phil yet another excuse to do a little dance on stage) I also have in a compilation disc; its date had long eluded me, until I got this boot and realized I had the same recording. Before "'...in that quiet earth.'" Phil tells a story about how he received a package in the mail that was marked with all kinds of warnings, and upon opening it he found Chester Thompson, complete with drum kit. This version of "'...in that quiet earth.'" is awesome and features some nice guitar work by Mr. Hackett. "I Know What I Like" has a riff from "Moonlit Knight" dropped into it. In the Romeo and Juliet story that's told before "Supper's Ready," Romeo rips an odd assortment of clothes off of Juliet: she is wearing combat boots, a "Gary Gilmore" T-shirt, long underwear and a plastic bag. Mike Rutherford, in addition to his intro for "Special Way," also tells of the Scottish uprising on which "Eleventh Earl of Mar" is based, at the beginning of disc two.

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SAB 07

16/2/77

1-01 Intro (1:20)
1-02 Squonk (7:00)
1-03 One For the Vine (11:28)
1-04 Robbery, Assault and Battery (7:23)
1-05 Your Own Special Way (7:35)
1-06 Firth of Fifth (9:32)
1-07 The Carpet Crawlers (6:41)
1-08 '...in that quiet earth.' (4:45)
1-09 Afterglow (4:15)
1-10 I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (8:29)

2-1 Intro: Mar (1:01)
2-2
Eleventh Earl of Mar (9:55)
2-3 Supper's Ready (24:38)
2-4 Dance on a Volcano/Drum Duet (5:15)
2-5 Los Endos (6:12)
2-6 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (4:47)
2-7 The Musical Box (closing section) (2:52)

Type/Quality: pre-FM/Very Good

Comments: At the Auditorium Theatre in Chicago. This remaster was sourced from a pre-FM recording, so it is definitely an improvement over my previous version, with none of the noises I mention in my comments for that one. The quality is not perfect, and there is still some background noise audible during the quiet bits, but it's very good. The audience sound is much more realistic than on the Earls Court radio show, and the overall sound is better than that one. For further details on the show, see my comments in the previous entry.

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MSG '77

23/2/77

1-1 Intro (1:43)
1-2 Squonk (7:22)
1-3 One For the Vine (11:48)
1-4 Robbery, Assault and Battery (7:36)
1-5 Your Own Special Way (7:31)
1-6 Firth of Fifth (8:44)
1-7 The Carpet Crawlers (7:32)
1-8 '...in that quiet earth.' (4:42)
1-9 Afterglow/Intro: Supper (7:07)

2-1 Supper's Ready (25:15)
2-2 I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (9:21)
2-3 Eleventh Earl of Mar (8:41)
2-4 Dance on a Volcano/Drum Duet/Los Endos (8:43)
2-5 Los Endos (ending)/Applause (6:23)
2-6 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (4:55)
2-7 The Musical Box (closing section) (3:40)

Type/Quality: Audience/Good

Comments: (See my remaster of this recording, next entry.) At the Garden in New York City, this recording actually documents the band's first visit to that hallowed venue. For the occasion, they received an introduction from a local DJ (according to Halley, Scott Munie of WNEW). Scott mentions the band's American debut at a "Christmas concert" in 1972, and also talks about them having raised money for a charity. This may be the very DJ who spoke to Phil and Mike the day before on the radio interview I have in my compilations section.

This is a nice show, in pretty good quality. It seems to have been re-tracked (rather awkwardly) by someone somewhere along the way (the track times do not match typical versions), but it's definitely the MSG show as the venue is mentioned multiple times, it has the DJ intro, and it also has "Supper" before IKWIL and EEoM--what is probably a jumbling of the actual set list, but happens to be a jumbling typical of this show. Its re-tracking is eerily similar to the Detroit '77 show I have above (12/2/77)--the intro for "Supper" is inexplicably tacked on the end of the first disc, and the "Volcano" medley is divided incorrectly. In this case, the track containing the end of "Endos" is filled out by every mind-numbing second of audience applause between the end of the last number and the beginning of the encore.

There are a few breaks or hitches between songs, not always at the track edits, but nothing from this show seems to have been cut: there are no cuts in the songs and Phil's stories all seem intact. Phil introduces Steve Hackett by calling him the "Vincent Price of the group." He confuses the always confusing issue of the "In That Quiet Earth" medley by introducing it as "three" songs, when it is actually only two. On the album it would have been three, beginning with "Unquiet Slumbers for the Sleepers"--this incorrect introduction may be the source of numerous false claims of that song having been played live by the band.

At this time in the tour Phil had developed a very funny wardrobe which Romeo had to strip off of Juliet: she has a paper bag on her head, an "I love Gary Gilmore" T-shirt, and long underwear. This is of course the intro for "Supper." As I mentioned before, the much more usual and probably correct set order for this tour would have been to play IKWIL and EEoM before "Supper." However, other than this incorrect order (which seems present on all versions of the show) and the fact that the tracking could use some work, this is not a bad show at all. The sound quality may be just the slightest bit sickly, but it never degrades into any real speed trouble and maintains an acceptable level. A nice one to have.

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Winds Over NY City (PRRPGS003)

23/2/77

1-01 DJ Intro (1:44)
1-02 Squonk (7:10)
1-03 One For the Vine (10:31)
1-04 Intro: Robbery (1:24)
1-05 Robbery, Assault and Battery (6:14)
1-06 Intro: Mermaid (1:24)
1-07 Your Own Special Way (6:30)
1-08 Intro: Firth (0:56)
1-09 Firth of Fifth (8:56)
1-10 Intro: Crawlers (0:45)
1-11 The Carpet Crawlers (5:23)
1-12 Band Introduction (1:22)
1-13 '...in that quiet earth.' (4:43)
1-14 Afterglow (4:18)

2-01 Intro: Supper (2:12)
2-02 Supper's Ready (24:11)
2-03 I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (8:29)
2-04 Intro: Mar (0:38)
2-05 Eleventh Earl of Mar (8:12)
2-06 Dance on a Volcano (4:18)
2-07 Drum Duet (0:52)
2-08 Los Endos/Applause (9:25)
2-09 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (4:48)
2-10 The Musical Box (closing section) (3:24)

Type/Quality: Audience/Good-Very Good

Comments: At Madison Square Garden in New York City, this PRRP remaster was taken from the master tapes--which is odd, because I was sure that the order of this show was incorrect on my other version, but this remaster matches the order. Normal sets from this tour had "Supper" coming after IKWIL and "Mar," not before. I am still suspicious that this order is wrong, but I suppose the master tapes don't lie.

I have very little to say about this that wasn't said in the comments for my other version (above entry); this is a good show, with no cuts (the tapes were flipped during applause), and an interesting intro from the WNEW DJ who remembers the band's first US gig, the Christmas concert at the Philharmonic in 1972.

The sound quality is better, though I am bad at detecting touch-ups and to me the improvement was subtle. Apparently a lot of cleaning up was done. The best part of the remastering is that the recording has been speed-corrected. A nice audience show from this tour.

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A Layer of Gold

24/2/77

1-1 Squonk (6:40)
1-2 One For the Vine (11:30)
1-3 Robbery, Assault and Battery (8:00)
1-4 Your Own Special Way (8:24)
1-5 Firth of Fifth (10:00)
1-6 The Carpet Crawlers (6:15)
1-7 '...in that quiet earth.'/Afterglow (11:32)

2-1 I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (9:18)
2-2 Eleventh Earl of Mar (9:26)
2-3 Supper's Ready (23:45)
2-4 Dance on a Volcano/Drum Duet/Los Endos (13:20)
2-5 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway/The Musical Box (closing section) (incomplete)(5:10)

Type/Quality: Audience/Very Good-Good

Comments: At the Music Hall in Boston, Massachusetts. For the date I go by other boot lists, because for some reason the official site's archive does not list any gig played in Boston during the '77 tour. Also, Hewitt makes no mention of the gig, and also none of the ticket stubs or posters in the Genesis Museum provide any evidence for the existence of this show. This is very strange, as this seems to be a common and widely distributed boot with no arguments over date. Clearly though this is a '77 show and it is played in Boston. It is of shockingly good quality. The audience is only audible in a good way, there's barely any audience during the songs (there is one girl near the taper who has a memorable giggle which can be heard a few times during the intros), and at many points in this recording I could easily have mistaken this for a soundboard show. Like all boots, though, it has its problems. I noticed that on "Mar" and the first two sections of "Supper" the sound had a somewhat sickly quality to it--this might be due to speed problems in the original tape, or it might possibly be that some kind of power fluctuations were causing the instruments to sound like that, because Phil seems unaffected. There are also some substantial cuts, mainly during "Supper's Ready." The last line of the "Guaranteed Eternal Sanctuary" section and the entire "Ikhnaton and Itsacon" section are gone, so that "We will rock you, rock you little snake" fades off into the beginning of "How Dare I be so Beautiful?" There is also one line--"Feel your body melt"--cut from "Willow Farm." The end of the show fades off--it's missing the "Box" section of the "Lamb/Box" medley. The ending half minute or so of "Lamb" is punctuated by annoying bursts of static and hitches.

I hate having to list those problems, because really this is a fantastic bootleg, one of the best audience shows I've heard from this tour. As I said, it's one of the more commonly distributed shows from '77. The intros and stories (and the set list) are very similar to those heard on the Chicago radio show of 16 February 1977 (which is good supporting evidence for its having been dated near that show). Harry is robbing the first McDonald's restaurant; Phil tells the story well, along with the bit about Harry sawing off the limbs of his first victim. Juliet is wearing the same strange and hilarious assortment of clothes she wore when Phil told the story in Chicago (a paper bag on her head, boots, long underwear, and a T-shirt). Chester's band introduction describes how he arrived at the Genesis household in a big crate marked with all kinds of warnings; Chester was "curled up inside, asleep" along with his drum kit. Phil calls "The Carpet Crawlers" a country and western song which was originally done by Jim Reeves. He introduces Steve as "Mr. Steve 'Lock up Your Daughters' Hackett." Mike mentions that "Your Own Special Way" was released as a single. At the beginning of the show, Phil speaks of some kind of technical problem, and says that this always happens to them in Boston--though he does say that the venue they're playing at is "better than the Orpheum." Tony has to do some tuning before they can start "One For the Vine." It's possible that he had some trouble during "Squonk."

There was originally a break/cut in "Your Own Special Way," which I have actually been able to repair. The cut came in the very beginning of the bridge section, which starts with a phrase played twice. I was able to patch the missing few notes with the corresponding notes from the second phrase (you'll notice that the song is now 2 seconds longer than most bootlegs have it at). It sounds pretty seamless. Apart from the unfortunate cuts, this is a great show. I think it's one of the better ones from this tour.

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Drums in Buffalo

28/2/77

1-01 Squonk (8:23)
1-02 One For the Vine (10:27)
1-03 Robbery, Assault and Battery (7:33)
1-04 Intro: Mermaid (1:33)
1-05 Your Own Special Way (6:40)
1-06 Firth of Fifth (10:39)
1-07 The Carpet Crawlers (7:20)
1-08 '...in that quiet earth.' (4:54)
1-09 Afterglow (4:43)
1-10 I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (8:55)

2-1 Eleventh Earl of Mar (8:59)
2-2 Intro: Supper (2:06)
2-3 Supper's Ready (26:03)
2-4 Dance on a Volcano (4:29)
2-5 Drum Duet (1:05)
2-6 Los Endos (7:10)
2-7 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (4:53)
2-8 The Musical Box (closing section) (3:57)
2-9 Radio Interview with Phil Collins (3:54)

Type/Quality: Audience/Good

Comments: At the Buffalo Memorial Auditorium in Buffalo, New York, this is a fairly good show which has somehow earned itself an imaginative name. My track times do not match Simon's, but given the radio interview on the end and the intros from Phil, this is probably the right show.

There is a high-pitched hiss or ringing sound running through the background of the entire recording, but this can easily be eliminated by turning down the treble on your stereo. There were originally split second pauses on my version, but I have removed them. I once heard a few crackles in FoF and "Crawlers," but crackles and pops and scratches are weird for me: sometimes I hear them and sometimes I really don't. There is some very annoying whistling from the audience as "Lover's Leap" becomes "Guaranteed Eternal Sanctuary Man" in "Supper." There is a very small cut near the end of "How Dare I be so Beautiful?" This is the only cut in the entire recording.

Some interesting things happen in the show. At the beginning of the show, someone actually introduces the band. Phil asks the audience to try to be quiet during the quiet bits of the songs, because there are a lot of people in the very full venue. Before "Robbery, Assault and Battery," a guy in the audience actually yells the name of the song--either he was familiar with the set or just very lucky. Phil introduces Hackett as Boris Karloff's only son. He introduces Chester by claiming that Chester hit him over the head with a baseball bat and tried to mug him. I've heard this intro for Chester before, but I hope Phil didn't do it that often, because it seems somewhat racist to me... In the story for "Supper," Juliet is wearing a paper bag, thermal underwear and a Gary Gilmore T-shirt. Before "Volcano," the audience calls for "Lamb Stew," "Hogweed," and--strangest of all--"Voyage of the Acolyte." The sound quality could use a little help (I think this recording could be greatly improved by a nice remaster), but really this is not a bad show.

I should also mention with a little more detail the radio interview with Phil Collins that's tacked on the end. Like most bonus tracks, it has little to do with the show itself--the interview is actually from 1975, during the Lamb tour. The DJ tries to act like he's big friends with the band and spends a lot of time talking to Phil about his hair. They also talk a bit about the band's debut gigs in America.

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Afterglow in Quebec

3/3/77

1-01 Squonk (6:24)
1-02 One For the Vine (10:50)
1-03 Robbery, Assault and Battery (7:10)
1-04 Your Own Special Way (7:45)
1-05 The Carpet Crawlers (5:10)
1-06 Firth of Fifth (9:06)
1-07 '...in that quiet earth.' (4:28)
1-08 Afterglow (3:54)
1-09 I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (8:20)
1-10 Eleventh Earl of Mar (7:41)

2-1 Supper's Ready (25:34)
2-2 Dance on a Volcano (4:21)
2-3 Drum Duet/Los Endos (6:05)
2-4 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (4:26)
2-5 The Musical Box (closing section) (2:52)

Type/Quality: Audience/Good

Comments: At the Colisee de Quebec in Canada. The band nicely accomadate their audience by supplying all of their intros in French. I can tell enough to understand that in the intro for "Robbery," Phil says that Harry is trying to rob the very first McDonald's hamburger restaurant. Even the story for "Your Own Special Way" is told in French by Mike, who talks about the sailors' courting dance for Myrtle the Mermaid. In some versions of this show, the dance that Phil performs as an example of the courting ritual, accompanied by Chester on drums, is tracked separately and called "Drum Solo." This misled me into thinking that I was going to be getting some unusual drum performance on this show, but really it's just the typical song intro. However during Phil's dancing the crowd gets very, very excited.

The show is in rather good quality, but there are problems with it. It can get a little bit wavery at times. There is a small cut during the transition between "Quiet Earth" and "Afterglow." There is also a cut in the midst of "Los Endos." Digital stutters occur a bit toward the end of the second disc, definitely in "Lamb" but possibly elsewhere. They're really not as bad as I've heard on other shows--they sound almost as if reverb has been added.

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Philly '77

8/3/77

1-1 Squonk (7:20)
1-2 One For the Vine (10:42)
1-3 Robbery, Assault and Battery (7:48)
1-4 Your Own Special Way (8:41)
1-5 Firth of Fifth (9:31)
1-6 The Carpet Crawlers (7:43)
1-7 '...in that quiet earth.' (5:10)
1-8 Afterglow (4:45)
1-9 I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (9:41)

2-1 Eleventh Earl of Mar (9:07)
2-2 Supper's Ready (26:12)
2-3 Dance on a Volcano (4:44)
2-4 Drum Duet/Los Endos (7:21)
2-5 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway/The Musical Box (closing section) (8:18)
Bonus tracks:
2-6 Inside and Out (13/6/77 Palais des Sports, Paris)(6:59)
2-7 All in a Mouse's Night (2/1/77 Rainbow Theatre, London)(6:21)

Type/Quality: Audience/Good

Comments: Recorded mainly at the Spectrum in Philly (apparently the band's first visit to that particular auditorium--the previous year they played the Syria Mosque in Pittsburgh Pennsylvania, at the famous radio gig presented in an excellent version by the FAde people), this is a fairly good audience recording which someone has worked hard at to try to make a fulfilling representation of the WW tour. They have patched some cuts (rather awkwardly) and added a few bonus cuts in order to represent most of the songs played in '77. The result is good, though I did have to do a bit of a repair job in order to remove some split second pauses added in somewhere along the line.

The show has one problem, and it is a slight one. There is a little bit of scratchiness at the beginning of "Squonk," which pops up here and there later in the show in the form of small pops and scratches (none of them as bad as at the very beginning of the show). Depending on when and where I listened to this they were totally inaudible, so it's barely worth mentioning. There are some more prominent crackles evident in "Mouse's Night," but these are probably due to the track's having originally come from a vinyl source. Anyway I have this particular track in multiple other places and in better quality, most notably BURP 17, above. It is nice to have this version of "Inside and Out," because it comes from the rather famous radio broadcast of 13 June--a 45 minute soundboard chunk. I also have a couple of songs from this broadcast (including this one) on Wot Gorilla Lilith? Admittedly this is AM radio, so the sound is compressed and muffled (in comparison, "Mouse's Night" sounds almost tinny). There is also an always-startling static burst near the beginning of the instrumental ending section of the song (which I neglected to remove, to my woe).

As a curious aside, though the official Seconds Out live album claims to come from the four gigs at the Palais des Sports (11-14 June), Dunnington has called this claim into question (on the grounds that bands often falsely claimed their gigs were in Paris for tax reasons--and because none of the corresponding songs from this radio broadcast match those on the official release). However, the date of this track seems certain.

Anyways, let's talk about the main gig in Philly. At times, mainly I think in "Vine," there is some annoying audience banter. Mainly they keep quiet. There are actually one or two pretty funny comments from the audience--during the band intro one fan cries "Hey Phil, do you need another drummer!?" There is also a rather out of place call for "Ripples" right in the middle of "Supper's Ready." Phil introduces Hackett as the lead role in the British remake of Rocky (no doubt because they are in Philly, the town in which that movie was filmed). Phil's intro for Chester is almost unique and seems fairly racist--he claims that Chester hit him with a baseball bat and tried to mug him, and it was through this meeting that he came on as the band's drummer. I prefer Phil's alternate intro wherein he claims Chester arrived at the Genesis household in a crate, packed in with his drum kit (Layer of Gold, above, has a good example of this). Aside from this, most of the song intros are fairly standard. The "Moonlit Knight" riff is present in IKWIL. There is no intro for "Supper"--it seems to have been cut from the recording.

There would have been other cuts on here, were it not for the perseverance and dedication of some bootlegger, who has plugged up the holes rather sloppily with soundboard material. For instance, there is definitely a splice near the end of the "Ikhnaton" section of "Supper"--it may even come from the studio version of the song. It sounds very different than the rest of the recording and is probably faster in speed. I believe a splice has also been performed near the end of "Mar," as the song comes out of the bridge section and into the last verse. I have taken the liberty of smoothing out the transitions after the main show and between the bonus tracks. Though not perfect, this remains a good audience-sourced representation from this tour (and it's nice to have a show from Philly--I was born there!).

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Baltimore '77

9/3/77

1-1 Squonk (6:39)
1-2 One For the Vine (9:59) (8/3/77)
1-3 Robbery, Assault and Battery (7:06)
1-4 Your Own Special Way (6:17)
1-5 Firth of Fifth (8:29)
1-6 The Carpet Crawlers (5:16)
1-7 '...in that quiet earth.'/Afterglow (8:54)
1-8 I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (7:51)

2-1 Eleventh Earl of Mar (7:27)
2-2 Supper's Ready (23:49)
2-3 Dance on a Volcano (4:19)
2-4 Drum Duet/Los Endos (6:42)
2-5 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway/The Musical Box (closing section) (7:26)
2-6 Steve Hackett Interview (10:37)

Type/Quality: Audience/Good-Fair

Comments: At the Civic Center in Baltimore, Maryland. I am told by other sites that the OFTV is almost entirely from 8/3/77 in Philly, though for some reason on listening to this recording I didn't notice a clear shift in sound quality there. This show is ok in quality, but has several problems, one of which is that, aside from Phil's first intro to the audience, almost all of the intros have been cut, even sometimes at the expense of the first few seconds of a song. Also the whole thing sounds a bit fast to me.

There is a small cut after RAB, but most of Mike's Myrtle the Mermaid story for YOSW is still here. "Carpet Crawlers" fades in, and the opening bit of IKWIL is cut. "Eleventh Earl of Mar" fades in, and the first line of "Supper" is cut--the song fades in. The encore also fades in. Of course, the good side of all this in-between stuff being cut is that there are no cuts in the middle of songs, but it's a bit of a high price to pay, especially since other tapers of the period seem to have managed to get nearly complete shows without removing the intros.

One nice bonus on this show is that it includes a radio interview with Steve Hackett, apparently recorded on the same day as the concert (though whether it was before or after the show seems up for debate). Unfortunately, the sound quality for the interview isn't all that great either, but you can at least tell what Steve is talking about (I have another copy of this interview which may possibly sound a bit better on my compilations page). It's interesting to consider what he says here in light of the fact that this would turn out to be his last tour with the band. He seems very enthusiastic about the band and about how Phil is perhaps a better frontman than Peter (which isn't the impression I've gotten from Steve in more recent interviews). Steve talks about the laser show that happens on stage, and about the then-new drummer, Chester Thompson.

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Second Nature

13/3/77

1-1 Squonk (6:53)
1-2 One For the Vine (11:08)
1-3 Robbery, Assault and Battery (8:59)
1-4 Your Own Special Way (7:00)
1-5 Firth of Fifth (10:00)
1-6 The Carpet Crawlers (6:18)
1-7 '...in that quiet earth.' (6:14)
1-8 Afterglow (4:43)
1-9 I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (9:04)

2-1 Eleventh Earl of Mar (9:21)
2-2 Supper's Ready (24:44)
2-3 Dance on a Volcano/Drum Duet/Los Endos (12:06)
2-4 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway/The Musical Box (closing section) (8:18)
Apollo Theatre, Glasgow, 9/7/76:
2-5 Robbery, Assault and Battery (6:08)
2-6 It/Watcher of the Skies (incomplete)(4:51)

Type/Quality: Audience/Good-Very Good

Comments: Recorded mainly at the Fox Theatre in Atlanta Georgia. This is a good audience boot with some rare radio show tracks stuck on the end. There are no real pops to speak of except right before track 2-5, and the audience doesn't intrude on the songs. Hackett as was his wont does the intro for FoF, but this time before Phil lets him take the mic he mentions that Steve is related to then-president Jimmy Carter (probably he's lying ;). Before "Your Own Special Way," Mike mentions that the song is their new single and that it is currently racing up the Venezuelan charts. He also tells the typical sea shanty intro, and Phil gets to dance. Phil often changes the location that Harry the thief is robbing in his story for R, A & B--for this gig he said it was the very first Burger King restaurant. There's some added static on the end of the first disc, for no good reason--I've noticed that bootlegs seem to get that on them sometimes, possibly due to some people's burning software. Mike does the intro for "Mar," but there is no intro for "Supper"--they couldn't have just gone into the song, so I think it was smoothly edited out of this recording for some reason. Part of the end of the "Iknaton and Itsacon" section of that song is cut out.

Now for the bonus tracks--the correct date is as I have it above, 9 July 1976. This show was recorded for the "Genesis In Concert" movie that was released in theatres, and which I have on VHS, VCD and DVD (look on the video pages for multiple entries). However neither of these tracks were featured on the video. The "It" on here is actually the same one eventually placed on the four sides live version of Three Sides Live. "Robbery" is a true outtake, not used anywhere else. These were played on a radio program (the announcer is included on here) and were called Seconds Out Outtakes. Phil was interviewed on this program, but his interview is not included here. The "It/Watcher" track is incomplete because it's basically just "It"--the song fades out before it gets into the "Watcher" section. At the end the announcer says he will see us next week for "Six of the Best." David Dunnington tells us that he is not talking about the reunion gig, but a radio program of the same name. Ironic, eh?

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Los Angeles '77

24/3/77

1-1 Squonk (5:43)
1-2 One For the Vine (10:00)
1-3 Robbery, Assault and Battery (7:08)
1-4 Your Own Special Way (7:27)
1-5 Firth of Fifth (9:38)
1-6 The Carpet Crawlers (4:49)
1-7 '...in that quiet earth.' (5:20)
1-8 Afterglow (4:00)
1-9 I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (8:12)

2-1 Eleventh Earl of Mar (10:01)
2-2 Supper's Ready (22:22)
2-3 Dance on a Volcano (partial)/Drum Duet (3:20)
2-4 Los Endos (5:37)
2-5 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway/The Musical Box (closing section) (7:29)

Type/Quality: Audience/Good

Comments: At the fabulous Forum in LA. (Some or nearly all of the fantastic-sounding BURP 33, below, is an alternate audience recording from this same gig.) "It's not often we get to play condemned buildings," jokes Phil to the audience. The speed seems a bit too fast, and the "s" sounds come out with some static. There is a small break in the middle of "Vine," quickly followed by another. Harry in Phil's intro for "Robbery" is robbing the first McDonald's hamburger restaurant. Phil introduces Steve Hackett as the "second cousin removed from John Wayne." There is a cut in Phil's intro for "Crawlers" that takes us right into the beginning notes of the song.

During "Crawlers" some extra cheering from the crowd is heard, and afterwards Phil says "It could only happen in Los Angeles. I wouldn't want to be in his shoes." Apparently, according to fan recollections on Simon's site, an overeager fan jumped on stage and tried messing with Phil's drum kit. He was removed by roadies.

In Phil's story for "Supper," Juliet is wearing a paper bag on her head, a T-shirt, and some boots. The guys recording the show discuss changing their tape before "Supper" starts, but they don't. This of course results in a cut in the beginning of the "How Dare I Be So Beautiful" section. There is also a weird error near the end of the "Willow Farm" section, where the sound seems to slow down a lot and becomes unintelligible for a few seconds.

The beginning of "Volcano" is severely cut, by about a minute or so. There are also a couple of breaks in "Lamb." So all in all not a particularly well recorded show, but it has its moments.

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San Francisco '77

25/3/77

1-1 Squonk (6:03)
1-2 One For the Vine (10:08)
1-3 Robbery, Assault and Battery (6:10)
1-4 Your Own Special Way (7:06)
1-5 Firth of Fifth (9:23)
1-6 The Carpet Crawlers (5:11)
1-7 Band Introduction (0:21)
1-8 '...in that quiet earth.'/Afterglow (9:14)
1-9 I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (8:14)

2-1 Eleventh Earl of Mar (part 1)(0:52)
2-2 Eleventh Earl of Mar (part 2)(6:50)
2-3 Supper's Ready (to end of Apocalypse)(19:26)
2-4 Supper's Ready (As Sure As Eggs is Eggs)(3:23)
2-5 Dance on a Volcano/Drum Duet/Los Endos (10:47)
2-6 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway/The Musical Box (closing section) (7:47)

Type/Quality: Audience/Good-Very Good

Comments: (I now have the soundboard recording of this gig, below!) At the Winterland Arena in San Francisco, California. It's a fairly clean and totally complete audience boot that suffers (on the second disc at least) from some freaked out tracking. For some reason "Mar" and "Supper" have been divided into two tracks each. Then "Volcano/Drums/Endos," a medley which is often broken into multiple tracks on other boots, is only one track here. I just don't know what goes through the heads of people who make these things. Anyway, that's not very important. What is important is the music. All the songs are here in full form--except "Supper's Ready," which is missing a small chunk near the end of the "Willow Farm" section. Also whoever recorded this didn't think anyone wanted to listen to Phil talk for more than 30 seconds at a stretch, because several of the longer intros have been severely edited. "Robbery, Assault and Battery"'s intro starts, goes on for a little while, then stops and starts up further into it, then stops again for good and the song begins. "Supper"'s intro starts but is then almost immediately cut off and does not come back. The other stories/intros, as far as I can tell, are intact. Phil introduces Steve as the only used car salesman he knows who can play guitar. The track that I labeled "Band Introduction" is really just Phil's introduction of Chester Thompson. A pretty energetic performance, and there's next to no pops, crackles, etc.

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Winterland '77

25/3/77

1-1 Squonk (6:27)
1-2 One For the Vine (10:54)
1-3 Robbery, Assault and Battery (7:36)
1-4 Your Own Special Way (7:58)
1-5 Firth of Fifth (9:53)
1-6 The Carpet Crawlers (5:23)
1-7 '...in that quiet earth.' (5:58)
1-8 Afterglow (4:36)
1-9 I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (8:58)

2-1 Eleventh Earl of Mar (8:53)
2-2 Supper's Ready (26:55)
2-3 Dance on a Volcano (5:00)
2-4 Drum Duet (0:46)
2-5 Los Endos (5:58)
2-6 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (4:46)
2-7 The Musical Box (closing section) (3:04)

Type/Quality: Soundboard/Very Good-Excellent

Comments: At the Winterland Arena in San Francisco, this is the soundboard recording of the gig I have in audience form above. This version was released to the trading public in early 2007. The quality is pretty stellar, and the show is almost perfect, but has some cuts. "Squonk" starts just a few notes in. There is a very short and very light bit of static in Phil's first intro to the crowd. There is a cut directly after FoF that takes us directly to the beginning of "Carpet Crawlers." It's possible a very few notes of the opening of that song are missing--the musical cut is fairly negligible, but the intro is missing. There is a gap after "Mar," but Phil's story for "Supper" is intact. There is another bit of light static near the end of the "Supper" intro. There is a gap after "Endos" and a very very small bit of the beginning of "Lamb" has been clipped.

Many of these issues could easily be fixed and some of the missing bits patched in from the audience recording; a remaster is available from PRRP which does just that. Anyway, it's another great '77 soundboard show in what is getting to be a long list. Some other details: Harry is robbing the original Rice-a-Roni factory in the intro for RAB. Steve is introduced as the only used car salesman Phil knows who plays guitar. Phil mentions that Chester is one of the few who "survived Mr. Zappa."

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BURP 33

24 & 27/3/77

1-1 Squonk (7:04)
1-2 One For the Vine (11:54)
1-3 Robbery, Assault and Battery (7:33)
1-4 Your Own Special Way (7:24)
1-5 Firth of Fifth (9:37)
1-6 The Carpet Crawlers (6:26)
1-7 '...in that quiet earth.'/Afterglow (8:50)
1-8 I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (8:54)

2-1 Eleventh Earl of Mar (11:00)
2-2 Supper's Ready (24:08)
2-3 Dance on a Volcano/Drum Duet/Los Endos (10:41)
2-4 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway/The Musical Box (closing section) (8:15)

Type/Quality: Audience/Very Good-Good

Comments: At the Sports Center in San Diego California--but only partially. All of the intros apart from the first one are completely identical to those in my LA '77 show, above. The likely solution is that this is a much better version of the LA '77 show with a "Good evening San Diego!" line from Phil spliced in, but I have not carefully compared the actual songs from my LA recording to see if they match up with these. I understand that the original taper of both dates (Los Angeles and San Diego) released his recordings in this combination format. The BURP 33 artwork claims that only the concluding section of the show, from near the end of "Supper" on, is from LA--but this does not jibe with the fact that all the intros from as early as that for RAB match my Los Angeles recording.

This is an audience recording of very good quality, which can from time to time sound like a radio or soundboard show. It is totally complete except for a tiny little cut near the end of "Supper's Ready" (only the phrase "to take" is missing) and the loss of a little of the opening of "Volcano," which fades in.

During Mike's intro for "Special Way" a woman very clearly screams "I wanna kiss you!!" After "Carpet Crawlers," there is a pause and Phil comments, "It could only happen in Los Angeles. I wouldn't want to be in his shoes right now!" According to the interesting incidents section on Simon's site, a crazy fan got on stage and started messing with Phil's drum kit, and was quickly hauled off by a trio of roadies. Obviously given Phil's reference to LA and the fact that this very same thing happens on my LA '77 show above, this song is definitely from the Los Angeles gig.

Hackett is introduced as the second cousin of John Wayne. In the Romeo and Juliet story before "Supper," Juliet is wearing a paper bag on her head, a Gary Gilmore T-shirt, army boots and thermal underwear. Sexy!

A final note: though a great deal of what happens on stage between songs is the same on this entry and on the LA '77 entry, it is important to mention that the recordings were definitely not taped by the same people. Different audience chatter can be heard on each (the guys who taped LA '77 do a lot more talking--actually I find them quite amusing), and the LA '77 show has multiple cuts.

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Just a Pool of Tears

2 (or 3)/4/77

1-1 Squonk (7:10)
1-2 One For the Vine (12:02)
1-3 Robbery, Assault and Battery (5:54)
1-4 Your Own Special Way (8:03)
1-5 Firth of Fifth (9:29)
1-6 The Carpet Crawlers (6:34)
1-7 '...in that quiet earth.' (4:33)
1-8 Afterglow (incomplete)(2:38)
1-9 I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (8:00)

2-1 Eleventh Earl of Mar (10:26)
2-2 Supper's Ready (24:03)
2-3 Dance on a Volcano (4:29)
2-4 Drum Duet/Los Endos (6:20)
2-5 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (4:39)
2-6 The Musical Box (closing section) (2:57)

Type/Quality: Audience/Good-Very Good

Comments: At the Coliseum in Vancouver, some conflict exists as to the correct date of this gig. As far as I can tell, most people say 2 April, but 3 April is also a possibility. Since it's only a one-day difference, it doesn't bother me terribly. This is a Highland boot, so the sound is really quite clear, but it does have some problems. There is a burst of static in "Squonk," for instance, as well as a repeated and very loud scratching noise during a chunk of "Mar" that sounds like a burner error, but seems to be on many traders' versions of this show. Also there is the continued yelling of fans in between songs asking members at the front of the auditorium to sit down (Phil tries to make this happen himself during his first intro, but nothing seems to come of it, since the yelling continues--some of it seemingly from the person recording the show). Phil mentions to the audience that he saw the Canucks play in the Coliseum on the previous night (this seems impossible no matter what date this show is from, since the band would have had a gig the previous night either way--who knows?). People are yelling about sitting down during Phil's story for "Robbery." There is a cut after that song so that it goes right into the drum solo before "Your Own Special Way," and we miss Mike's setup.

As he did on at least one other occasion, Phil introduces Steve Hackett as a car dealer. Phil claims that "Crawlers" was written by "Buck Rogers" and recorded by "his horse Trigger." Phil seems to have meant to say "Roy Rogers" but got mixed up. There is some microphone fumbling toward the end of "Crawlers." Afterglow fades out toward the end. As I mentioned earlier, there is that clicking noise in "Mar," beginning some time before the bridge section and lasting some of the way into the beginning of the bridge before it fades away. In "Supper," there is a small cut towards the end of the "Willow Farm" section. So as I said, some problems, but the quality is nice.

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Brazil '77

15/5/77

1-1 Introduction (0:56)
1-2 Squonk (6:32)
1-3 One For the Vine (9:50)
1-4 Robbery, Assault & Battery (7:16)
1-5 Inside and Out (7:35)
1-6 Firth of Fifth (8:37)
1-7 '...in that quiet earth.' (4:41)
1-8 Afterglow (4:22)
1-9 I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (8:36)

2-1 Supper's Ready (24:18)
2-2 Dance on a Volcano/Drum Duet (4:47)
2-3 Los Endos (7:08)
2-4 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (4:31)
2-5 The Musical Box (closing section)/Conclusion (4:13)

Type/Quality: Radio/Good-Very Good

Comments: At the Maracananzinho Stadium, Rio de Janeiro, this seems to be the only existing bootleg from the Brazil leg of the '77 tour (not anymore!! see next entry), which lasted from 10-22 May. Apparently Genesis did not have such a great time in Brazil, and this show has a reputation of being one of the worst radio shows out there. However, with that kind of expectation, I was pleasantly surprised; I thought the quality was quite good. There was some loud background noise, and whenever Phil sings an "ess" noise it gets a bit staticy. However it is still a radio show, and I assume it's a complete record of their performance--though "Crawlers" and "Earl of Mar" are strangely missing; they may have been omitted from the set, but on consideration the more likely explanation is that they were cut from the broadcast due to time constraints. The show does have a radio announcer breaking in quite frequently--he introduces the show and sometimes even talks over a bit of Phil's intros.

There is a small break in the FoF solo and in "Afterglow," but other than that--there are no cuts or errors. This part of the '77 tour, Genesis' first time in Brazil, introduced the beginning of their short-lived series of performances of the b-side "Inside and Out." The ending of the recording here is weird--something is happening, but it all involves the announcer talking in what I assume is Portuguese (Phil also attempts to speak this language in the intros to the songs), so I have no idea what's going on.

See below for a fantastic and much better-sounding show from the Brazilian leg of the '77 tour.

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BURP 18

21/5/77

1-01 Squonk (7:00)
1-02 One For the Vine (10:08)
1-03 Robbery, Assault & Battery (7:25)
1-04 Inside and Out (7:42)
1-05 Firth of Fifth (9:02)
1-06 The Carpet Crawlers (6:23)
1-07 '...in that quiet earth.' (4:35)
1-08 Afterglow (4:18)
1-09 I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (8:11)
1-10 Eleventh Earl of Mar (7:58)

2-1 Intro: Supper (1:29)
2-2
Supper's Ready (24:54)
2-3 Dance on a Volcano (4:14)
2-4 Drum Duet (0:44)
2-5 Los Endos (6:10)
2-6 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (4:48)
2-7 The Musical Box (closing section) (3:05)

Type/Quality: Soundboard/Excellent-Very Good

Comments: At the Ibirapuera Stadium in Sao Paulo Brazil (according to Simon, the second of two shows that day), this is a remastered, complete soundboard show that until late 2003/early 2004 was hidden from your standard traders. Luckily for us, it was leaked by someone, which inspired Mark Bataitis to quickly release this remastered version. This is basically a perfect show (note that it features a performance of "Inside and Out"). The sound is excellent and nothing is missing. Phil speaks what I figure is Portugese to the audience. Mike for his intro of "Mar" just speaks English--his intro is very short. At the very beginning of the show, the drums for "Squonk" start before anything else--someone missed their cue. There is a short pause from the band before "Supper" which seems to have something to do with Mike--Phil says something in Portugese with Mike's name in it, then irritably says "Momento, momento!" at the audience--but then the song starts.

The original version of this that I got had split second pauses--I had to remove them. Other than that, this must surely be one of the best (if not the very best) shows from this tour. Unless you're looking for more English from Phil on his stories...

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Stockholm '77

4/6/77

1-1 Squonk (6:32)
1-2 One For the Vine (11:35)
1-3 Robbery, Assault and Battery (7:41)
1-4 Inside and Out (8:03)
1-5 Firth of Fifth (9:50)
1-6 The Carpet Crawlers (6:11)
1-7 '...in that quiet earth.' (6:16)
1-8 Afterglow (4:34)
1-9 I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (9:02)

2-1 Eleventh Earl of Mar (8:58)
2-2 Supper's Ready (27:03)
2-3 Dance on a Volcano/Drum Duet/Los Endos (11:47)
2-4 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway/The Musical Box (closing section) (8:21)

Type/Quality: Audience/Good-Very Good

Comments: At the Isstadion in Stockholm, Sweden, this show comes from the closing months of the WW tour and features the somewhat rare "Inside and Out." It's really quite a nice audience recording, and the person I got it from claimed their copy was first generation. "Squonk" starts just a bit into the song. It's somewhat hissy, and when the recording fades out and comes back in after FoF, it seems even hissier. The volume is just a bit low, but if you crank your stereo you can hear a very detailed and clear recording (aside from the hiss, that is). There were originally two small pauses on disc 2, which I have removed. Across the transition between the two last tracks, Phil is saying "We'll see you next time," but the removal of the pause that was originally in the middle of that has left the phrase with a small cut, so that it sounds more like "We'll see you-ext time." This is the only real cut of any kind--all of the music is complete.

When Phil introduces Steve Hackett to the audience before FoF, he dubs Steve "the baby snatcher." Mike Rutherford's intro for "Mar" is uncharacteristically short, and Mike almost sounds sad; perhaps he was feeling shy or sick that night--or perhaps he thought English was wasted on the Swedish audience. Or perhaps he quickly gave up trying to talk because his microphone was much too low...

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Cologne '77

17/6/77

1-1 Squonk (6:24)
1-2 One For the Vine (10:40)
1-3 Firth of Fifth (9:17)
1-4 The Carpet Crawlers (5:48)
1-5 '...in that quiet earth.' (5:43)
1-6 Afterglow/I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (13:19)

2-1 Supper's Ready (25:03)
2-2 Dance on a Volcano/Drum Duet (5:02)
2-3 Los Endos (5:33)
2-4 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway/The Musical Box (6:05)
2-5 The Musical Box (concluded)(2:33)

Type/Quality: Audience/Good-Fair

Comments: (See my slightly better version of this recording, next entry.) At the Muengersdorfer Sportstadion in Cologne, Germany. This is not a particularly complete or good quality recording. The sound is not bad but the recording nevertheless has some problems. The normal set had "Robbery, Assault and Battery," "Inside and Out," and "Eleventh Earl of Mar;" however given that the next gig at Offenbach has an identical set and both seem to have been open-air gigs with other bands attending, it is likely these numbers were omitted by the band for time considerations. The sound is strangely muffled and I think the recording may have been seriously dehissed at some point. Parts of the sound are very very low, like the keyboards and the song intros. With headphones on I was able to make them out fairly clearly, but certain sections of songs were much much louder. The sound seems to go in and out volume-wise.

I also have a feeling that somewhere along the line some sort of software was used on this to remove pauses, but in effect what happened was that a certain amount of the recording was removed at the track edits. For instance, as "In That Quiet Earth" segues into "Afterglow," there is a slight cut, and the same thing happens as "Los Endos" begins. There are a few pops/scratches at the end of "Carpet Crawlers," and possibly a few at the end of IKWIL. The end verse of FoF is entirely missing.

Steve Hackett does his usual introduction for FoF, but then something goes wrong and a short drum solo follows--possibly Phil did some dancing to accompany it. Then the song starts as usual. Phil tells an almost entirely German version of his story for "Supper"--usually he uses more English phrases, but apparently he had brushed up on his German pretty well, or had it all printed out and was reading!

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Cologne '77 (upgrade)

17/6/77

1-1 Squonk (6:26)
1-2 One For the Vine (10:42)
1-3 Firth of Fifth (9:19)
1-4 The Carpet Crawlers (5:51)
1-5 '...in that quiet earth.' (5:46)
1-6 Afterglow/I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (13:19)

2-1 Supper's Ready (25:06)
2-2 Dance on a Volcano/Drum Duet (5:05)
2-3 Los Endos (5:36)
2-4 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway/The Musical Box (6:07)
2-5 The Musical Box (concluded)(2:33)

Type/Quality: Audience/Good

Comments: At the Muengersdorfer Sportstadion in Cologne, Germany. This recording appears to be entirely identical to my previous version, except that it was copied by people who actually knew how to correctly copy CDs. If you read my comments for the previous entry, you will see that I noticed some cuts in the track transitions. This version is one without those cuts (notice that the track times are all two to three seconds longer than those of the previous version). This version also does not have the pops that I mention in the previous entry.

Apart from these improvements, however, not much else has changed. The sound is still muffled, and has probably been de-hissed or noise reduced in some way. "Firth of Fifth" still cuts off as it is coming out of the solo section, so that we lose the last verse. As detailed in the previous entry, there seems to be a technical problem after Hackett introduces FoF: there is a pause and a bit of a drum solo.

The unusual set of this show initially led me to believe that the order of songs was incorrect, and/or there were songs missing. However as theorized in the previous entry, I now believe this recording to be basically complete apart from the missing chunk of FoF--this was just a curtailed set that Genesis employed on this tour for some of their open-air gigs in Germany.

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Offenbach '77

19/6/77

1-1 Squonk (7:55)
1-2 One For the Vine (11:43)
1-3 Firth of Fifth (9:16)
1-4 The Carpet Crawlers (7:13)
1-5 '...in that quiet earth.' (5:02)
1-6 Afterglow (4:35)
1-7 I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (9:16)

2-1 Supper's Ready (27:42)
2-2 Dance on a Volcano/Drum Duet/Los Endos (incomplete)(9:20)

Type/Quality: Audience/Good-Fair

Comments: At the Stadion Bieberer Berg, Offenbach Germany. This gig was a special open-air event with Genesis being part of a long bill including Gentle Giant and Manfred Mann's Earth Band. The sound is muddy (in more than one way--this is a Genesis open-air show, so of course it rains!); the band are very up-front in the mix, but the sound remains somewhat indistinct and bass-heavy, and the overall speed is too slow.

Phil thanks the road crew after the first number for having helped to organize the concert. The set here is shorter than usual, but this is most likely due to the band having edited out numbers for time considerations.

The show has definite speed issues, but the degree of the problem seems to vary. For instance, I noticed that the speed seemed particularly slow at the start of FoF. The end of ITQE on into "Afterglow" has very noticeable speed fluctuations. "Endos" fades out before the song gets to the reprise of the "Squonk" theme. This one is perhaps interesting because it is a unique gig, and if I'm right about the shortened set there aren't many cuts, but the recording is still not that good.

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Living Revelations

24/6/77

1 One For the Vine (10:21)
2 Inside and Out (7:13)
3 Firth of Fifth (8:52)
4 Dance on a Volcano/Drum Duet/Los Endos (11:05)
5 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway/The Musical Box (closing section) (7:27)

Type/Quality: Radio/Very Good-Good

Comments: (See more complete show from this date, below; and a remaster below that one.) This is a staggeringly incomplete bunch of tracks from a radio show (the show was at Earls Court). Good quality; a little crackly. This one was transferred from tape. Actually the whole thing sounds very manufactured; almost all of the audience noise has been removed, and there are no intros for any of the songs. The overall sound seems somewhat lifeless, definitely what I'd describe as "flat." Don't get me wrong, it's quite good, certainly better than an audience boot, but there's something off about the mix. Includes a good quality version of "Inside and Out," the rare live b-side. "Lamb" sort of fades up into the first verse, so part of the beginning is missing; probably just Phil singing the chorus for the first time. Speaking of the chorus, there are two times when he would normally sing "On Broadway!" where he doesn't in this version. Most likely this is because he was making the audience sing that part, but since the audience are not on the 'board recording, it just sounds odd here.

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Before Riches

24/6/77

1-1 Squonk (6:54)
1-2 One For the Vine (11:28)
1-3 Robbery, Assault & Battery (7:03)
1-4 Inside and Out (7:22)
1-5 Firth of Fifth (9:16)
1-6 The Carpet Crawlers (5:20)
1-7 '...in that quiet earth.' (4:28)
1-8 Afterglow (4:35)
1-9 I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (9:13)

2-1 Eleventh Earl of Mar (10:27)
2-2 Supper's Ready (24:12)
2-3 Dance on a Volcano/Drum Duet (4:52)
2-4 Los Endos (6:01)
2-5 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (4:43)
2-6 The Musical Box (closing section) (3:15)
2-7 The Knife (3:51)

Type/Quality: Radio/Very Good

Comments: A more complete version of the Earls Court show featured fleetingly in the above entry, from another radio broadcast (see next entry for a remaster of this material). This one has a full show, with stories, though a lot of the audience cheering has been edited out. In fact, the sound of the audience between songs is always experiencing major changes in volume level, which makes a lot of the performance seem very edited together (though I believe it is in the right order). It features the fairly rare "Inside and Out" and the very rare encore of "The Knife," which was only played from 23-25 June on this tour. This is the only good quality version of this song on this tour. Of course, Phil sang the song on other tours, but it was always a fairly rare occurrence.

In Phil's intro after the first number, he says the phrase "Genesis live at Earls Cou-" over and over again, about 8 times, before getting unstuck and carrying on. It turns out this is Phil messing with the heads of potential tapers of the show by making them think that there's a hiccup. He almost had me fooled, but you can hear the audience carrying on unrepeated behind him. The intro for "Inside and Out" is quite humorous and features a typical Genesis self-effacing remark about how the Spot the Pigeon EP, from which "Inside and Out" is taken, is currently "racing up the Indonesian charts." For some reason before "Carpet Crawlers" Phil lies that it was written and recorded by Jim Reeves in the sixties. I'm sure it would be a good joke if I knew who Jim Reeves was. A good quality show, though there is some minor but irritating static/distortion in "Supper's Ready." It seems to start somewhere in the "How Dare I be so Beautiful?" section, then disappears, and returns at the end of "Willow Farm." It then goes off and on until the end of the song. I don't hear it on any other tracks, though there is a general "rough around the edges" type of feel to most of the recording. Very good, just a little rough.

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SAB 01 v2

24/6/77

1-1 Squonk (6:53)
1-2 One For the Vine (11:28)
1-3 Robbery, Assault & Battery (7:03)
1-4 Inside and Out (7:22)
1-5 Firth of Fifth (9:16)
1-6 The Carpet Crawlers (5:19)
1-7 '...in that quiet earth.' (4:27)
1-8 Afterglow (4:34)
1-9 I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (9:12)

2-1 Eleventh Earl of Mar (10:28)
2-2 Supper's Ready (24:25)
2-3 Dance on a Volcano/Drum Duet (4:52)
2-4 Los Endos (6:01)
2-5 The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (4:57)
2-6 The Musical Box (closing section) (2:59)
2-7 The Knife (3:50)

Type/Quality: Radio/Very Good

Comments: This is the SAB remaster of the famous Earls Court radio broadcast. The track times are very, very similar to Before Riches, but they are slightly different and match that of Simon's entry for the SAB version 2 (which is cleaner than the first SAB remaster of this show). I compared this with Before Riches and the sound is definitely louder on this one, and also the static problems on "Supper" that I heard on the other are not here.

Unfortunately with these kinds of remasters one gets very high expectations which can be easily disappointed. Though this is definitely an improvement and is a classic radio show, I found the sound to still be a bit rough around the edges; not the perfect soundboard recording I was hoping for. These are not pre-FM reels. There is still the annoying very fake applause between songs, and I heard two small buzzes on here (disc 2, track 4, around 3:10 and 5:20) that are definitely not on Before Riches.

Still one of the best from this tour. Phil tells a pretty good Romeo and Juliet story: "And then he ate her pants," Phil says, to spice things up. There is a crowd reaction to his line about Juliet being tied to the steering wheel: "I didn't know so many people tied their girlfriends to steering wheels," says Phil.

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Earls Court '77 (last night)

25/6/77

1-1 Squonk (7:19)
1-2 One For the Vine (10:43)
1-3 Inside and Out (8:02)
1-4 Firth of Fifth (9:39)
1-5 The Carpet Crawlers (6:22)
1-6 '...in that quiet earth.' (4:37)
1-7 Afterglow (4:35)
1-8 I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (9:26)

2-1 Supper's Ready (26:43)
2-2 Dance on A Volcano/Drum Duet (4:50)
2-3 Los Endos (5:55)
2-4 The Knife (4:20)

Type/Quality: Audience/Good-Very Good

Comments: At Earls Court in London, this is the last of three consecutive performances at that location. The one right before this one, of course, is represented by a nice radio show. This is a pretty great audience recording, but what I didn't notice about it on first listen was that it is probably entirely missing three numbers: "Robbery, Assault and Battery," "Eleventh Earl of Mar," and the first encore, "The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway/The Musical Box." (I suppose it is remotely possible that since Genesis had already played two shows here, they cut some numbers for the last performance.) It does however feature the very rare "Knife" encore, which on this tour was only played at Earls Court. The missing numbers seem common to the recording.

As Phil did on the previous night's performance, in his intro for "Supper" he repeats a phrase about audience members at the show "Making a record of it--record of it--record of it..." Ha, ha, ha. The only other interesting thing I noticed is that partway through the first number the sound changes, suggesting that there is a patch. There are no cuts in any of the songs present.

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Zurich '77 (GRU02)

2/7/77

1-1 Squonk (6:22)
1-2 One For the Vine (11:02)
1-3 Robbery, Assault & Battery (7:43)
1-4 Inside and Out (7:55)
1-5 Firth of Fifth (9:40)
1-6 The Carpet Crawlers (partial)(2:50)
1-7 '...in that quiet earth.' (6:34)
1-8 Afterglow (4:18)
1-9 I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (9:26)

2-1 Eleventh Earl of Mar (8:30)
2-2 empty track (0:04)
2-3 Supper's Ready (25:06)
2-4 Dance on A Volcano/Drum Duet (6:03)
2-5 Los Endos (5:48)
2-6 The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway/The Musical Box (closing section) (8:23)

Type/Quality: Soundboard/Very Good-Excellent

Comments: (See the Digital Brothers remaster of this show, next entry.) At the Hallenstadion in Zurich, Switzerland, this show is one of those unhidden soundboard gems, made public around the middle of 2004. Not only that, but it is also the penultimate gig of this tour and features a playing of the b-side "Inside and Out." As a final distinction, this recording documents a gig which both Alan Hewitt and the official Genesis site claim does not exist! According to both gig guides, there was no show on 2 July 1977. In fact, according to them, Genesis never played Zurich during that whole year. However, Phil can clearly be heard saying "Zurich" in his opening introduction to the audience, and this is clearly a '77 set list, so I will just have to take this date that bootleg sites have assigned this show and use it.

This is what is called the "GRU" version of this show. This is a fantastic quality soundboard show that is almost complete and has no real errors. There are a few slightly strange things about it. For one thing, a good deal of "Carpet Crawlers" is missing--it cuts in at the chorus before the last verse and goes on to the end of the song. All versions of the soundboard material have this same cut. Also all of the song introductions are at the beginning of the tracks, which can be kind of annoying if you're trying to skip directly to a song. Finally there is the pointless four-second track on disc two with nothing but dead air on it. These are paltry problems, though, and overall this is really a must-have Genesis show. Hear Phil have fun with languages: he peppers his introductions with German, French and English.

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Zurich Revisited (Digital Brothers)

2/7/77

1-1 Squonk (7:31)
1-2 One For the Vine (11:43)
1-3 Robbery, Assault & Battery (6:45)
1-4 Inside and Out (8:21)
1-5 Firth of Fifth (9:13)
1-6 The Carpet Crawlers (7:34)
1-7 '...in that quiet earth.' (4:38)
1-8 Afterglow (4:23)
1-9 I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (9:52)

2-1 Eleventh Earl of Mar (9:41)
2-2 Supper's Ready (25:05)
2-3 Dance on A Volcano (4:15)
2-4 Drum Duet (0:41)
2-5 Los Endos (6:13)
2-6 The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway/The Musical Box (closing section) (8:04)

Type/Quality: Soundboard and Audience/Excellent-Very Good

Comments: At the Hallenstadion in Zurich, Switzerland. This version of the Zurich gig actually combines the soundboard recording with an audience recording to make a totally complete recording with excellent sound and audience atmosphere. The matrix (as they are called) sounds pretty seamless to me. "Crawlers" must be mostly patched from the audience version but it is basically impossible to tell where the soundboard kicks back in. On the song intros it is easy to tell that there is an audience recording involved, since you can hear individual audience members, but there is no chatter during the songs and Phil's stories are never interfered with. I would say this is my best version of this must-have recording.

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Munich '77

3/7/77

1-1 Squonk (6:56)
1-2 One For the Vine (10:28)
1-3 Robbery, Assault & Battery (7:14)
1-4 Inside and Out (7:41)
1-5 Firth of Fifth (9:29)
1-6 The Carpet Crawlers (6:43)
1-7 '...in that quiet earth.' (4:35)
1-8 Afterglow (4:08)
1-9 I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (9:57)

2-1 Eleventh Earl of Mar (9:22)
2-2 Supper's Ready (25:29)
2-3 Dance on A Volcano/Drum Duet (5:32)
2-4 Los Endos (5:47)
2-5 The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway (4:44)
2-6 The Musical Box (closing section) (2:56) (different source)

Type/Quality: Audience/Good-Fair

Comments: Having received this bootleg, I can now say I have the first and last shows of the W&W tour. Recorded at the Olympiahalle, Munich, in Germany. In fact, Phil actually seems to make a somewhat successful attempt at speaking German to the crowd (he speaks German so much that it's rather hard to know what he's talking about most of the time); although the ones nearby whoever was taping this seem to speak English just fine, and in fact you can hear one of them translating the German back into English for his friend. The crowd is the main problem with this recording; it's mostly of good quality, and sometimes the audience can add some nice flavor to a bootleg. But this crowd can get very intrusive, especially when they start singing along (this happens only on parts of a few tracks, namely the chorus of "Carpet Crawlers," some of "Afterglow," the opening of "Supper's Ready," and some very short bits of "The Lamb;" and one of them whistles along with the instrumental part of "Firth of Fifth!"). Since they're closer to the taper, they almost smother Phil with their second rate attempts at vocalizing. There are several versions of this show, the last Hackett ever played as a part of Genesis (unless you count the two numbers he played on during the reunion gig at Milton Keynes); I've seen a couple with different track orders/times, and my copy, unlike the other versions I've seen, used to be missing "I Know What I Like" (though I could hear the very beginnings of it at the end of the first disc). However I have obtained a replacement disc one which sounds slightly better and which includes IKWIL. So now the show is complete! There is a distinct hitch between one or two tracks on the second disc, but it doesn't interfere with the music in any way. There is a single loud "tick!" at the beginning of disc two--this happens on some discs due to people's less than perfect burners. Phil provides some very expressive sound effects for his intro to "Robbery, Assault and Battery." Hackett introduces "Firth of Fifth." Before track 1-7 Phil introduces Chester to the audience. Mike does the intro for "Eleventh Earl of Mar," which seems an odd track to stick in the middle of the set--but there you are.

It's worth noting that this recording includes a rare playing of "Inside and Out," a b-side from the Spot the Pigeon EP that was only played live during the tail end of this tour. Also on this recording you can hear Phil tell the Romeo and Juliet story in German! One final note: as I said there are multiple versions of this boot, but I believe all of them are without the ending "Box" section in the "Lamb/Box" medley encore; this particular version happens to include a splice. Other versions of the boot simply don't have that part of the song. The "Box" section on here is from a different audience recording, one that sounds a bit cleaner and is probably faster--I don't know the date at all.