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Non-Album Tracks
There is a list like this in Scott McMahan's discography, but mine is
a bit different and includes a bit more songs (and more information in
certain areas). I've put this information together using McMahan's file,
Hewitt's book, Genesis a-z web site, the official web site, and one or
two other web sites--and also with the help of some kindly fans. I've
broken it up into different sections:
1 B-sides. This is
more a euphemism than an accurate term, since a few of the tracks are
the a-sides of singles or tracks from EPs that never got onto an album;
basically these are songs that were officially released, but not
on an LP. Entries are listed chronologically and broken up by album session.
The release dates for the singles are all the dates of their initial release
and do not include any subsequent re-releases that may have occurred;
the dates are taken almost entirely from Hewitt, and are backed up by
McMahan--the only questionable ones are "Happy the Man" and
"Twilight Alehouse," which seem to wickedly elude being consistently
dated.
2 Demos/Live/Etc. Also listed as chronologically
as I could. Songs written and performed by the band which were not officially
released. These are surprisingly numerous and required a lot of explanation,
so I provided two lists, one a summary of all the song titles and the
next a more detailed run-through.
What I defined as "Non-Album Tracks" are any tracks
recorded (sometimes not even that much!) or credited to Genesis (live
or studio or seen on a session track list) that did not appear on their
15 official studio releases or five live releases. One bunch of exceptions
are the b-side tracks included on the fourth side of the original US release
of Three Sides Live, which I put on this list because they were
originally b-sides and because this version of Three Sides Live is
no longer in print and is not really officially available anymore. Another
couple of pseudo-exceptions are the first few b-sides in the list, as
they are actually featured on most re-issue CD versions of FGTR. I include
them here because they were not released on the original official LP release
of the album, and were initially b-sides or simply non-album tracks. I'm
ignoring the fact that many of the tracks in both categories have been
released on the archive box sets--that still doesn't make them "album
tracks" in my book. (Two "b-sides" that didn't make the
archive cut, though they were eventually released on the bonus disc included
in the 1976-1982 box set: "Match of the Day" and "Me
and Virgil.")
What I did not include on the list were single edits
or extended versions or remixes of songs that appeared on
official albums. Thus you won't see the "sex mix" of "We
Can't Dance" or the extended version of "Mama" on here.
I did not include working titles for album tracks, as those titles
do not represent alternate versions of those songs but are only casual
names given to album tracks as they evolved into real songs. (That having
been said, there are a few formative or alternate versions of album tracks
that did get into the Demos/Live/Etc. list, since I felt they were different
enough from the originals.) I did not include medleys as they always
consisted of album tracks put together, and because I have a separate
list of them further down. I also did not include covers by
Genesis of songs by other bands (although they've done a few--Rolling
Stones songs in their formative days, some very few songs from solo members,
and various classic rock songs in the "Turn It on Again" medley
and elsewhere), only original Genesis tunes.
Finally, a warning: BEWARE THE FALSE TITLES. Professional bootleggers
are not always dedicated Genesis fans, and quite often song titles on
bootlegs will be incorrect. (Vulcano?!) Often you might be looking at
a bootleg track list, thinking "Wow! I've never heard of that song
before, but it says it's by Genesis! I've found a NEW Genesis song! Sweet
Georgia Brown!" when in fact what you're looking at is just a horribly
mistitled version of "Behind the Lines." So be careful! Odds
are if the title is not on this list, the song is either not by Genesis
(for instance, early Anthony Phillips demos have been tacked onto bootleg
compilations of Genesis outtakes: "The Reaper," "Master
of Time") or is a song you know that's been mistitled (people very
unfamiliar with the band will name songs by their chorus, and I have sometimes
seen "Dancing With the Moonlit Knight" called "Selling
England by the Pound").
One particular example that we should all keep in mind is Mary, Mary,
which is actually a song on a well known bootleg called Happy
the Man. It's not a mistitled track, and it is by Genesis--just not
the right Genesis. There was another Genesis hanging around in the late
60s in the US; they were the reason the first album made by Banks and
company didn't have the band's name on the cover, and thus got filed in
with the religious albums. And this other Genesis did a song called "Mary,
Mary," which then got accidentally filed with the other tracks on
Happy the Man. (Adding to the confusion is the fact that the band
Anon, featuring members who would eventually become part of Genesis, covered
a Stones song called "Mercy Mercy," which you'll see is a very
similar title! And to make it even more confusing, I have also heard info
stating that the "Mary, Mary" on the Happy the Man bootleg
is NOT the same version as that recorded by the other Genesis!!)
Anyways, with that all out of the way, here (finally) is the list:
B-Sides
From Genesis to Revelation sessions
That's Me (written/recorded 1967,
released February 1968 w/The Silent Sun)
A Winter's Tale (released May 1968 as a-side; b-side
is below)
One-Eyed Hound
(These
were a couple of songs left over from the very early days of the band
which were regularly played live but for one reason or another never got
released officially until later in the band's history)
Twilight Alehouse (March 1973 one-track flexidisc
promotion with Zig Zag magazine, then b-side to I Know What I Like,
October 1973 (these dates are different for every single source I've looked
at, and I just had to settle for the most plausible ones); given set list
evidence, this song might have been around in written form as early as
October of 1969)
Happy the Man (May 1972 a-side b/w Seven Stones;
so technically not a b-side)
A Trick of the
Tail sessions
It's Yourself (recorded 1975, released February
1977 w/Your Own Special Way; in an earlier form it was known as Beloved
Summer and had an additional verse of lyric)
Wind and Wuthering
sessions
(released on the Spot the Pigeon EP, May 1977)
Match of the Day
Pigeons
Inside and Out
...And Then There
Were Three... sessions
(released June 1978, w/Many Too Many)
The Day the Light Went Out
Vancouver
Duke sessions
(also appeared on Three Sides Live (US))
Open Door (May 1980, w/Duchess)
Evidence of Autumn (August 1980, w/Misunderstanding)
Abacab sessions
Naminanu (October 1981, w/Keep It Dark)
Submarine (March 1982, w/Man on the Corner)
Abacab sessions
(released on the 3 x 3 EP, May 1982, and later on Three Sides
Live (US), June 1982)
Paperlate
You Might Recall
Me and Virgil
Invisible Touch
sessions
I'd Rather be You (August 1986 or possibly
earlier that year, w/In Too Deep)
Do the Neurotic (August 1986, w/In Too Deep)
Feeding the Fire (November 1986, w/Land of Confusion)
We Can't Dance
sessions
On the Shoreline (1991, w/I Can't Dance)
Hearts on Fire (August 1992, w/Jesus He Knows Me)
Calling All Stations
sessions
Papa He Said (August 1997, w/Congo; as is
the next one)
Banjo Man
Phret (1997?, w/Shipwrecked; as is next)
7/8
Anything Now (February 1998, w/Not About Us; as
are the rest)
Sign Your Life Away
Run Out of Time
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Demos, Live, Etc.
Summary
List:
Early Demo Tape Songs
Patricia
Pennsylvania Flickhouse
Don't Want You Back
She is Beautiful
Try a Little Sadness
Listen on Five
Image Blown Out
Barnaby's Adventure
Fourteen Years Too Long
Hair on the Arms and Legs
Hidden in the World of Dawn
Lost in a Drawer
The Mystery of the Flannan Isle Lighthouse
Sea Bee (AKA: CB)
From Shapes to Shadows
From the Bottom of a Well
Hey!
I'm Here!
2:30 Park Time or 2:30 Pinktime (AM PM)
There Was a Movement
Everywhere is Here
The Magic of Time
Build Me a Mountain
Humanity
You Got to be Perfect
Early Live Songs, etc. (1969-1970)
Babies
Little Leaf
Chobham Chords
Digby of the Rambling Lake
Masochistic Man
Key to Love
Going Out to Get You
Let Us Now Make Love
Pacidy
Stranger
Grandma
Jamaica(n) Longboat
Classic
Eastern Magic Boogie
Epic
Think Again
Wandering
Wooden Mask
Waterlily
The Shepherd
Winter Flies By
In the Meanwhile
Silver Song
Moss (AKA The Epilogue)
Genesis Plays Jackson (1970)
Provocation
Frustration
Manipulation
Resignation
Alternate/Early Versions
F# 1
Family
Nice
The Light
I've Been Travelling All Night Long/Rock My Baby/Bye-Bye Johnny
The Movement
Titles Only
Rainbows of Gaia
Shimmers
Nowhere Else to Turn
Detailed List:
Songs labeled
(A) were included in some form on the first box set. Songs labeled (B)
I have on bootleg--click on the B to go directly to an entry in my Live
Recordings section featuring the corresponding song. Any song with neither
letter after it is, as far as I know, not extant in recorded form except
on the original demo tape (which may or may not still exist). Some very
old Genesis tunes have become available on Anthony Phillips solo releases;
"F#" is one example, and there are one or two others like that,
which I noted in the list.
The first tape (April 1966)
Patricia (A)
Pennsylvania Flickhouse
Don't Want You Back
[This, according to Hewitt and confirmed by other
sources, is a partial track listing for the first tape ever recorded by
members of what would eventually become Genesis (actually the band Anon,
whose only member that would eventually join Genesis at that time was
Anthony Phillips--Mick Colman was filling in for Mike Rutherford, who
was temporarily banned from playing guitar). These songs (in addition
to at least one Stones cover) were recorded by friend Brian Roberts in
a makeshift studio above two garages. The second two songs would later
be re-recorded at the band's first professional recording at Tony Pike
Sound--there, Mike Rutherford replaced Mick Colman on guitar. All of these
songs except "Pennsylvania Flickhouse" were also included on
the first demo tape given to Johnathan King, so it's pretty much fair
to call them Genesis songs, even though in April of '66 they were still
Anon songs. Gallo calls "Don't Want You Back" "Don't Wash
Your Back," but I think I put more faith in Hewitt, as a lot of his
information seems to come straight from interviews with band members.
Genesis a-z puts "Don't Wash Your Back" as an alternate title.
"Patricia" is an instrumental version of what would eventually
become "In Hiding" on the first album; Gallo says it was written
by Ant when he was thirteen years old.]
The
first demo tape for Johnathan King (Easter 1967)
She is Beautiful (A)
Try a Little Sadness (A)
Listen on Five
[This is not the entire track listing for the first
demo tape, just the ones that I haven't mentioned yet. None of these demo
tape track lists are complete--I did not mention any songs recorded that
would end up as officially released b-sides or on a studio album, as I
am trying to stick just to songs which have never been officially released
(not counting their appearance on the box sets). "She is Beautiful"
is technically just an early version of "The Serpent," but the
lyrics and the vocals are so different that I consider it a different
song.]
The
second demo tape for Johnathan King (Summer 1967)
Image Blown Out (A)
The
third demo tape for Johnathan King (Autumn 1967 or early 1968)
Barnaby's Adventure
Fourteen Years Too Long
Hair on the Arms and Legs (A)
Hidden in the World of Dawn (A)
Lost in a Drawer
The Mystery of the Flannan Isle Lighthouse (A) (there's
some conflict over the spelling of "Flannan," as some sites
have it as "Flannel," but since the archive says "Flannan"
and you can also see an image of a demo tape track list with it spelled
that way, I'm going with that)
Sea Bee (AKA: CB) (A)
From Shapes to Shadows (this song appears on a copy
of the third demo tape's track list. Much thanks go to José Carlos
Maltez for pointing out to me the existence of the track list image on
the official web site)
Other
songs from 1967
From the Bottom of a Well
[From the Bottom... was a planned b-side for "Where
the Sour Turns to Sweet," but was never released; recorded in August
67.]
Demo
session, 13 March 1968
Hey! (A)
I'm Here! (just a title on a session sheet; may
be an early version of some other song)
2:30 Park Time or 2:30 Pinktime (AM PM) (the correct
name is unknown, though the official site music FAQ came down on the side
of the first one)
There Was a Movement (AKA Movement? but definitely
not The Movement; see entry for The Movement near the bottom of
this list)
Other demos, recorded in 1968
Everywhere is Here
The Magic of Time (A)
Build Me a Mountain (A)
Humanity
You Got to be Perfect
[Build Me a Mountain was recorded during the FGTR
sessions of 1968. Another song that could have been mentioned here is
Sitting on Top of the World, which was also
recorded in 1968. However, information that I've read about it leads me
to believe that it is in fact a cover, not an original Genesis tune, so
I don't think it really belongs on my list. But I mentioned it, so there
you are]
Songs
probably played at first gig, 23 September 1969
Babies
Little Leaf (covered on Ant's Private Parts volume
3, as "Old Wives Tales")
Chobham Chords
Digby of the Rambling Lake
Masochistic Man
Key to Love
Going Out to Get You (A) (B) (my
sources claim this song was played at the first gig; it was also on a
demo recording made in August 1969. The live versions of this song that
I have heard come mainly from 1972, and they basically sound like a different
song as compared to the demo. I'm almost tempted to list this song twice
because of that...but I won't)
Let Us Now Make Love (A) (B) (probably
written in 1968; a regular live number)
Pacidy (A) (B) (Pacidy
was also a regular song at early concerts, and was demoed in August 1969)
Stranger (this ended up on Ant's Private Parts
& Pieces Volume I--some sources say it was played at the first
gig, and I'm inclined to agree with them)
Grandma
Other
early live songs, circa 1969
Jamaica(n) Longboat
Classic
Eastern Magic Boogie
Epic
Think Again
Wandering
Wooden Mask (McMahan has this song labeled as Wooden
Horse, but the a-z web site says this is the correct name)
Waterlily
The Shepherd (A) (B) (this
song along with Pacidy and Let Us Now Make Love were recorded for a BBC
Session in February of 1970--the other two songs were definitely early
live numbers, as they probably were played at the first Genesis gig; and
I also believe this song was considered for that gig, though probably
not played)
Winter Flies By
In the Meanwhile
(these last two were mentioned on the Genesis Music
FAQ on the official site as being live songs from the early days; I do
not remember having seen them anywhere else.)
Various
from 1969 and later
Silver Song (B) (Silver
Song is a Phillips/Rutherford collaboration, written while they were both
still in the band, so I include it here as a Genesis track. It was probably
written in the summer of '69, as this was when Johnathan Silver left the
band (his leaving was the inspiration for the song). It was even supposedly
considered as part of the very first live Genesis set, but as it turned
out was never played live--perhaps Pete's voice was not right for it,
and the band could not convince any other member to do the vocals. "Only
Your Love" is another song that might be put here, as it was performed
by Collins and Rutherford and recorded in the same session with Silver
Song (much later, in 1973), but I have chosen in this case not to include
it as I believe it was written totally by Anthony Phillips. For more about
it, see the Mysteries section)
Moss (AKA The Epilogue) (this may not be from 69,
but it's definitely early and I couldn't find another place to put it.
I've seen this song mentioned as being part of the Genesis live set in
an article from January 1971 reproduced by the official site (and in a
famous set from June of that year played at the Friar's Club and reproduced
in a magazine article), but it was probably around before then. I've heard
information that puts this song during the strange time in the band after
Phil joined but before Mick Barnard joined, which would be between August
and October of 1970--however there is also information suggesting that
this song was considered for the band's second album, which would put
it a couple months before that period)
Songs written for
a documentary about painter Mick Jackson (9 January 1970)
Provocation (B, partial) (includes
an instrumental section of Looking for Someone)
Frustration (B, partial) (became
Anyway; this version had different lyrics)
Manipulation (B, partial) (basically
just another name for F#)
Resignation (B, partial) (or
Peace)
[Tapes from this have surfaced but have not been
bootlegged in full form--I received mp3 clips of each one of the songs
from another fan. It's possible these songs will be officially released
in the near future. There were plans to make this documentary, but they
were scrapped. I'm not sure about the year for the original recordings
of these songs; it's possible that quite a few of them were born out of
improvisations based upon the works of the painter, although I'm quite
sure that "F#" existed before the time of this recording. The
Genesis A-Z site provided a date of 9 January 1970 for the BBC session,
entitled "Genesis Plays Jackson." This has since been confirmed
for me by a magazine article and some photographic evidence. The clips
I have are astoundingly good quality. The names of the songs are related
to the themes found in Mick's works.]
Early songs
that became other songs, but started out different
F# 1 (became The Musical Box; from 1969. May also
have been recorded as early as 1968, but information on that is conflicting.
Available on Ant's Archive Collection Volume 1, which I have, so
I can tell you that this song is basically the entire guitar melody for
a good half of The Musical Box, including the aggressive, pounding riff
that comes after the last refrain of "Play me my song/Here it comes
again." There is also an F# part 2 included on the Ant collection,
though I don't believe that bit was used in The Musical Box. The tuning
of the guitar was Mike's idea, and Ant embellished on it. It is also said
that Mick Barnard wrote the ending melody line of the final song (I assume
this is the "She's a lady" section), and possibly it was Steve
Hackett who actually made the sound of a musical box (whatever that means),
so a lot of Genesis guitarists worked on this song)
Family (A) (became Dusk. The demo recording labeled
as "Dusk" on the archive set was actually called "Family"
at the time--and the time was August 1969)
Nice (became The Knife; according to at least one
of my sources (the a-z site) this song was already being played by Genesis
at their very first gig. Gallo suggests this song was put together at
Ant's parents' house during September of 1969, the very month of the first
gig)
The Light (B) (became
Lilywhite Lilith; from 1970 or 1971. Was definitely played live on March
7, 1971, and probably also in January of that year. This song is much
longer than Lilywhite, has alternate lyrics (which are either Phil's first
attempt at writing, or more likely Peter making up lyrics on the spot
and trusting a muddy PA system to cover the rough edges), and has some
slightly different music to it. Has been called a staple live number from
the early days. If Phil truly wrote the lyrics to this song, that means
it must have been finished after August 1970, when he joined the band.
Actually he probably was more involved in the music-writing than the lyrics)
I've Been Travelling All Night Long/Rock My Baby/Bye-Bye Johnny (B,
last two) (all
names for what became Can-Utility and the Coastliners; the first version
was apparently vocal-free. Bye-Bye Johnny or Rock My Baby was an almost
finalized version of the song, but it had more music, slightly different
lyrics in one section, and none in the ending section. It was still being
played in this fashion in 1972, and was probably around before then. One
source I've seen has the first incarnation being played 10 April 1970.)
The
Movement
This is an incredibly long (45 minute) instrumental piece
dating back to the very early days of the band (possibly during the end
of summer 1969, according to a quote from Ant), that was supposedly recorded
but was never played live (for obvious reasons). It was broken up and
evolved into various songs and bits of songs later in the history of Genesis.
Examples of those songs are: The Light (later Lilywhite Lilith), The Colony
of Slippermen, Get 'em Out by Friday, Stagnation, Moss. Sounds like it
would have been very impressive to hear the whole thing, but sadly there
is little chance of that happening...On a VH1 special promoting the first
Archive box set, Peter Gabriel says that this song was recorded,
during a session played at early drummer John Silver's house--but that
the tape has since been lost. We can only hope it will turn up some day.
According to the a-z web site, this song is not related to the
song(s) called "Movement" and/or "There Was a Movement."
Songs so mysterious
that we only have names for them
Rainbows of Gaia
Shimmers
[Two songs that the a-z web site lists as being
in the "copyright database" for Genesis; I'm not sure where
this is, but I trust the web site enough to take their word for it. No
other details are known, although a-z has writing credits for both songs.]
The
last demo
Nowhere Else to Turn (B)
[From the CAS sessions, this one was never released
as a b-side and didn't get onto the album. It's the only other non-album,
non-b-side track I know of, and it's separated from the others by about
25 years, as it was probably recorded in the latter half of 1996 or the
first half of 1997. According to documentaries on the making of the album,
there were several song ideas for the WCD album which were developed up
to a certain point and then scrapped--but no information is available
on them. There are probably several other songs like this scattered throughout
the band's career--and it is probably all for the best that nothing will
ever be known about them. In being loyal fans, we should all (ideally)
trust to the band's own judgment that these aborted compositions were
not fit for public consumption. It's possible that the same could be said
for many of these early, unavailable songs listed above--but it is impossible
for me not to be curious...]
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Songs Never Played
Live
The following songs are Genesis songs that were never played live by
Genesis. I've included album tracks and b-sides, separated
into separate sections, each section arranged chronologically and separated
by album or album session.
I used the a-z web site, Hewitt's book and McMahan's discography to compile
this list (and on questionable points there was also The Movement and
other fans to consult). McMahan's list did not include b-sides (since
he quite logically decided not to bother listing them, as the great majority
were never performed and it sort of went without saying), nor did it include
songs from CAS; mine does. You won't see anything from the Lamb on this
list, because every show of the Lamb tour included the entire album of
songs!
From Genesis to Revelation
(Information on this album and its tour
is too sketchy to give any solid answers here. Given however that the
band did not have a lot of material to work with at this earliest stage
of their career, it's possible that every track on this album might have
been played live at least once.)
Trespass
(it seems quite likely, given information from various
sources, that every song from this album was being played live before
the album itself was even recorded, as in the early years Genesis played
new material live as soon as they had written it.)
Nursery Cryme
For Absent Friends
Foxtrot
Time Table
Selling England by the Pound
After the Ordeal
Aisle of Plenty (the band played Cinema Show regularly,
but never actually finished it with this song, which returned to the "Moonlit
Knight" theme and rounded off the album very nicely; ah well...)
A Trick of the Tail
Mad Man Moon (it was downright cruel of Tony
to write this beautiful song if he wasn't going to play it live)
A Trick of the Tail
Wind and Wuthering
Blood on the Rooftops
"Unquiet Slumbers for the Sleepers..." (though
various sources at one time or another have listed this song in track
lists or set lists, it was never actually played live, only its instrumental
counterpart "In That Quiet Earth." Simon Funnell has confirmed
my suspicions on this point via email--as has my own extensive collection
of live recordings)
...And Then There Were Three...
Undertow
Snowbound
Many Too Many (the video is a trick!!)
Scenes From a Night's Dream
Duke
Man of Our Times
Heathaze
Alone Tonight
Cul-de-sac
Please Don't Ask
Abacab
Another Record
Genesis
Taking It All Too Hard
Just a Job to Do (there is one recorded instance
of a very small section of this song being played during a soundcheck:
27/2/84; but it does not seem to
have been played before an audience)
Silver Rainbow
Invisible Touch
Anything She Does
We Can't Dance
Never a Time
Tell Me Why (this song and the next were possibly
played during soundchecks or rehearsals, but never in front of an audience)
Living Forever
Way of the World (never played before an audience,
though a bootleg includes a
version of this song played during a live rehearsal)
Since I Lost You
Calling All Stations
If That's What You Need
Uncertain Weather
One Man's Fool (only played during rehearsals, apparently)
B-Sides
It's Yourself
Match of the Day
Pigeons
The Day the Light Went Out
Vancouver
Open Door
Evidence of Autumn
Naminanu
Submarine
You Might Recall
I'd Rather Be You
Do the Neurotic
Feeding the Fire
On the Shoreline
Hearts on Fire
Papa He Said
Banjo Man
7/8
Phret
Anything Now
Sign Your Life Away
Run Out of Time
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Rarely Played Live
The following Genesis songs were played live by Genesis inconsistently.
Some songs here were only played a few times, some were played for only
part of one tour, some were played periodically on one tour, and some
were played for only small portions of several tours. I did not include
songs that were played regularly on one whole tour (except a few very
early songs, since the first tour is so mysterious and was so short-lived).
These are once again broken up by album (after the album songs are the
b-sides that were played live, and after those are a few of the much rarer
variety).
The songs listed from the first two albums are not certain, as
I don't think any recordings exist of them actually being played, and
we're only going on guess work for those. By most songs I've put whatever
information I was able to get from the Movement, the a-z web site, McMahan,
Hewitt, and various boot sites (including my own) about when and where
they were played. In some cases I have also included information about
songs that were played regularly on other tours, but only rarely on others;
there is more detailed information on this subject on the set
lists page. Any songs marked with a (B) I have on bootleg--click
on the B to be taken to an entry from my Live Recordings section which
includes one of the better quality versions of the particular song.
From Genesis to Revelation
In the Beginning
The Serpent
In Hiding
One Day
Window
In Limbo
The Conqueror
(Given set evidence, these songs were probably played live during the
FGTR and possibly parts of the Trespass tour. Other songs from
the FGTR album are usually not mentioned.)
Trespass
Looking For Someone
Visions of Angels
Dusk
(McMahan lists most of these as having been included in early gigs, the
a-z site agrees, and McMahan and Hewitt cite quotes from Ant in which
he mentions (at one time or another) all of these having been played live.
Hewitt seems quite certain that "Visions of Angels" was a regular
part of the tours for the first and second albums (and the a-z site puts
it at the first gig); of course that would normally put it out of the
running for this list, but since there are no live recordings of this
song extant (to my knowledge), I include it here. It has also come to
my attention that the opening theme of "Visions" was resurrected
during the longer live performances of "I Know What I Like.")
Nursery Cryme
Seven Stones (B)
Harold the Barrel (B)
Harlequin (B)
("Seven Stones" was only played
during the Italian part of the NC/Foxtrot tour in 1972, according to McMahan;
Hewitt seems to have it in their set list of 71, but he doesn't get specific
so it's hard to tell. The only known recording of the song is from Genoa,
22/8/72. "Harold the Barrel" was
supposedly played occasionally on the NC tour, but it is only present
in recorded form on one NC date: 20/8/72 (it was also played on a BBC
session, but I don't really count that as a real "live" performance).
As bootlegs from this tour are scarce, it is possible the song was played
at other times in '72. It was also played at the end of January and the
beginning of February 1974, during the European part of the SEBTP tour.
You'll hear Foxtrot tour audiences shouting for "Harold!"
sometimes, but there are no boots from that tour with the actual song
on them. I have a Foxtrot show wherein Phil tells the crowd that
"Harold" is an old number and that they aren't going to play
it. Still, boots for the Foxtrot tour are quite spotty, so again
anything is possible. "Harlequin"
was probably played periodically on the NC tour; it replaced "Happy
the Man" as the show opener on the only extant copy of it being played
before an audience, at the Watford Technical College show of 4/3/72.)
Foxtrot
Horizons (B)
Can-Utility and the Coastliners (B)
("Horizons" is not mentioned
as being particularly rare on the a-z site or by Hewitt, but McMahan mentions
it. It was played only periodically during the SEBTP tour, usually replacing
"More Fool Me" in the set (though occasionally both songs were
played). Few are the bootlegs that actually have a version of this song
on them--less than half of the existing SEBTP shows. "Can-Utility"
is not mentioned by others but I definitely mark it as a rare live track.
It was played a few times on two different tours, but never enough to
amount to a whole tour's worth. It was played very rarely in its early
form as "Bye Bye Johnny" (or one or two other titles, such as
"Rock My Baby") during the Nursery Cryme tour, and then
under its actual name for the end of the NC tour and the first part of
the Foxtrot tour: the latter tour began in September 1972, and
they seem to have given up on it by the beginning of October. In fact
it only appears on two of the bootlegged gigs from that tour. And after
that it was never played again.)
Selling England by the Pound
I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (...just kidding!)
Firth of Fifth piano intro (B)
More Fool Me (B)
(Ahh, the dreaded "Firth of Fifth"
intro. Considered rare because it was only played during the SEBTP tour,
and then only sporadically. Actually I have many performances of it on
bootleg from the SEBTP tour, played flawlessly, but apparently Tony often
had trouble with it, enough that it was never played again on any subsequent
tour (although "Firth of Fifth" was often played live). The
actual last time it was played was 6 May 1974 in NYC, the very last show
of the SEBTP tour. "More Fool Me"
was played in a lot of shows during the SEBTP tour, but not always--towards
the ending two months of the tour it was often dropped from the set. One
well-documented performance was at the Rainbow Theatre, the version that
is on the first box set. Another song from this album that could be mentioned
here is "Battle of Epping Forest," which while played rather
often during the SEBTP tour, was not played every night by a long shot,
and was never played in another tour after that.)
Wind and Wuthering
Your Own Special Way (B)
Wot Gorilla? (B)
All in a Mouse's Night (B)
("Your Own Special Way" is kind
of iffy to put on here, as it was played on three different tours, but
only in parts of them. This song was played very consistenly for the first
part of the W&W tour, from the very first show until May, when for
their introductory tour of Brazil Genesis dropped the song in favor of
the even rarer "Inside and Out" (this coincided with the release
of the Spot the Pigeon EP, on which the song was featured). This
song remained in the set in place of YOSW until the end of the tour in
early July. "Your Own Special Way" was also played during the
Australian leg of the IT tour--with "The Invisible Strings,"
a local orchestra--in November and December of 1986 (there are only very
few bootlegs with this version of the song, but it popped up on the second
box set as well), and a very small section of it was put into the
Old Medley on the WCD tour from time to time. "Wot
Gorilla?" was only played on the very first night of the W&W
tour, 1/1/77, in a medley with "Lilywhite Lilith" and "The
Waiting Room." "All in a Mouse's Night"
was only played during the UK portion of the W&W tour in January of
'77.)
...And Then There Were Three...
Down and Out (B)
Ballad of Big (B)
("Down and Out" was only played
in the early part of the ATTW3 tour. It was played regular as clockwork
in the US early in the tour, and then off and on in Germany and Sweden
and Canada, but by the end of July it seems to have left their set for
good. "Ballad of Big" was played
very spottily, kind of near the beginning and in the middle of the tour,
but almost never in America (except their show in MSG). Mostly it seems
to have been played (when it was played at all) in the European leg of
the tour, in places like Germany, Sweden, and Switzerland.)
Abacab
No Reply At All (w/Phenix horns) (B)
Like It or Not (B)
("No Reply" was actually played
regularly on the Abacab tour, but only about four times on the
3SL tour with the Phenix horns (or EWF?). The a-z web site and Simon Funnell
basically agree that these performances were on 9-10 and 22-23 August
1982, in LA and New York respectively. "Like
It or Not" was only performed in the NE of the US (and one
Canada gig) during the later days of the Abacab tour--the only
concrete gigs I have it at are as follows: The Spectrum, Philadelphia
on 26/11/81; Landover, Maryland on 30/11/81; Hartford, Connecticut on
2/12/81; and Montreal on 4/12/81.)
Invisible Touch
In Too Deep (B)
(Not mentioned by other sources, but this song was only played during
part of the IT tour: it was dropped by February of 1987 and was not played
for the remaining five months of the tour. It was only played during the
US and Australia legs of September-December 1986 and part of January of
the following year. A playing of it from that period appears on the WWW
live disc, volume 1.)
We Can't Dance
Dreaming While You Sleep (B)
(Spottily played on this tour, but definitely played during the final
UK leg and in Earl's Court, which is how it ended up on the WWW DVD. The
a-z site says it was played during the early part of the US tour and every
once in a while in the middle of the tour in US and Canada. Simon's boots
bear out the early US appearances, and the ending UK appearances, but
don't show much in the middle. Hewitt only mentions the UK appearances.
While I'm on this tour, I'd like to point out two songs that, while they
were played often on other tours, only appeared rarely on this one. "Mama"
was only played very early in the tour in the US, and then was altogether
dropped, so that the version of that song on the official live CD release
(The Way We Walk) is not even from the WCD tour, but from the IT
tour (specifically Wembley Stadium 4 July '87, the last night of the tour).
"The Carpet Crawlers" was only played once, at the first small
club show in England. If you're wondering, yes, I do have that
version of "The Carpet Crawlers," and no, it's not very
good quality.)
Calling All Stations
Shipwrecked (B)
Alien Afternoon (B)
Not About Us (B)
Small Talk (B)
There Must Be Some Other Way (B)
(The CAS tour had a somewhat fluctuating set list from the standpoint
of CAS tracks played, and while all of these were played on the tour none
were played for the whole of the tour. CAS also has the unfortunate quality
of being the only tour with CAS songs, making many of its songs almost
automatically rarities in my mind--I probably put more on this part of
the list than I really needed to. "Shipwrecked"
was played for most of the tour but was dropped a bit past mid-February
of '98. "Alien Afternoon" was played
off and on throughout the tour, just not every night. "Not
About Us" was played at a lot of the pre-tour radio and promotional
shows before the main tour began, notably at RTL studios in Paris on 13/12/97
(this recording was featured as a b-side, which I have); and then very
regularly during the second half of the tour, starting in late February.
I believe that it was only ever played acoustically. The RTL studio show
also featured what was the only actual live performance of "Small
Talk," which I also have. "Small Talk" was played
during rehearsals, but never before an audience except on this one occasion.
"There Must Be Some Other Way"
was like "Alien Afternoon" in that it was played most of the
time, but not always--in fact "Alien" and "There Must Be..."
traded places in the set periodically starting near the end of February
1998. Before that time they were both regulars in the set. "There
Must Be..." was probably the more often played song of the two.
There were also a few standard Genesis numbers that were tried out on
this tour for a few shows and then dropped: "That's All" and
"Hold on My Heart." "That's All" may have only been
played on 23/1/98, for a dress rehearsal
gig in the UK, but "Hold on" was played at the 23/1 gig, on
28/1 for a dress rehearsal in Budapest,
and again on 29/1 for a "real"
concert at the same venue. I know of no other before-an-audience performances
of these songs on this tour.)
B-sides
Inside and Out (B)
Paperlate (B)
Me and Virgil (B)
("Inside and Out" was only played
on the W&W tour, starting at 10 May for the band's first visit to
Brazil and continuing probably until the end of the tour in early July.
"Paperlate" was probably only played
with the EWF horns on the same dates as "No Reply At All," listed
above. "Me and Virgil" was only
played at the first two gigs of the Abacab tour, in Spain. The
first gig of 25/9 has only an incomplete recorded version of the song
available; the second gig's version is featured in complete form on several
bootlegs.
By the way, in case you're wondering, "Happy the Man" and "Twilight
Alehouse" are not mentioned here because they were actually regular
staples of the NC tour; "Twilight" was also probably played
well before then, and periodically afterwards during the Foxtrot tour.
"Happy the Man" also exists on the La Ferme gig in Belgium on
7/3/71, which was during the Trespass tour; it's an earlier version,
played slower and with different lyrics. The a-z site puts "Happy
the Man" at the beginning of the Foxtrot tour as well, but
I've seen no recordings of this, and Hewitt doesn't seem to mention it
either.)
Others
Pacidy
The Shepherd
Let Us Now Make Love
Little Leaf
Key to Love
Going Out to Get You (B)
The Light (B)
(These are samples of some of the songs from the early days which were
never released officially; all of these but "The Shepherd" and
"The Light" were probably played at the first Genesis live gig.
"The Shepherd" may have been a regular during the FGTR tour.
"Pacidy" is listed by Hewitt in the first and second tours,
and the next two in the list were eventually recorded in 1970 for the
BBC--Hewitt has them being played live in 1970. "Little Leaf"
and "Key to Love" were only played during the very early gigs.
In a general sense the a-z site agrees with Hewitt's information. I've
read a direct quote from Ant who confirms that these first four songs
were among their early live sets. "Key to Love" seems to have
been a fairly regular early live number as well.
"Going Out to Get You" was probably a fairly regular number
in the early, early days (including the first gig). Early sets changed
a lot, though, and evidence is very slim, so it's hard to say just how
often anything was played. The song is documented in recorded form as
an encore on the only existing boot from the Trespass tour (7/3/71
in Belgium) and on a couple of Italian boots from the NC tour (18/4/72
in Rome and 15/4/72 in Lugo Di Ravenna (or Romagna?)). Its presence on
three different tours technically doesn't really make it a rarely played
song--but recordings of it are scarce. Probably by the NC tour it was
regarded as a very old number that was only tacked onto the end of the
set as a special treat for the Italian audiences. There are reputedly
unrecorded live versions of this song that went on for as long as 20 minutes.
"The Light" is only in recorded form on the bootleg from 7/3/71.
Tony Banks mentions it as being one of the "favorites" from
the early days, and it was probably a regular from the Trespass tour,
but it does not appear to have been played on any subsequent tour.)
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Most Often Played
Live
Below, for your consideration, are the songs played most often live by
Genesis. By most often I mean regularly on several tours. They are basically
in chronological order. I have also detailed in exactly what tours the
songs appeared (for some of the songs, this information is repeated in
the later list of "Pete-era songs played by Phil-era
band," but I didn't want someone reading this to have to go to
a different list to get this information, so I repeated it). This list
was actually a bit harder to compile than you might think, because it's
hard to set guidelines for what can really be considered "often,"
and then hard to track down just how many times a song was played live
(you have to go through a lot of set lists). I chose as my guideline for
"often": any song that was played fairly regularly for more
than four tours' worth of performances. Sometimes there were songs that
appeared for a lot of tours, but in many of the tours they were either
only played at a few gigs or only played in small bits in the middle of
medleys; these did not make it to the list.
This cut off a lot of songs which were played very regularly, but also
left a surprising number (17 songs in all). You'll notice that no songs
from the Mama album onwards are included here, because there were
only four Genesis tours from Mama onwards (not counting the 2007
Turn It on Again tour!), so none of the songs from those albums could
possibly have been played for more than four tours (it also just happens
that there are no songs from Abacab on here either, but that's
just because none of those songs were played for more than four tours--in
fact, only the title track was played for four tours). This is rather
unfortunate, as the list then leaves out very regular live numbers from
the '80s-'90s, like "Mama," "Home by the Sea," "Invisible
Touch," "Land of Confusion," and "Domino" (all
songs that, once they were written and recorded, were played regularly
on every subsequent Genesis tour). But the line had to be drawn somewhere.
Interesting to note, while I'm noting things, that the only songs from
the WCD album that were carried over for the CAS tour were "No Son
of Mine" and "I Can't Dance" ("Hold on My Heart"
was also played by the Ray band, but only a few times).
I have decided to leave the Turn It on Again reunion tour out of my reckonings
for the most often played--if I had counted it, a lot of the songs I just
mentioned from Mama and Invisible Touch would get on the
list and make it even longer than it already is. However I do mention
the tour in this list--look carefully and you will see that over half
of the most played songs were used for the 2007 tour. This shows pretty
clearly how the band chose their most dependable live numbers for the
reunion shows.
Before I go into the chronological list of 17 songs, let's do a quick
ranking of the top 8 songs:
I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe)
Los Endos
The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
Turn It on Again
In the Cage
Dance on a Volcano
Afterglow
The Musical Box
That, as nearly as I can figure, is a correct ranking. I looked not only
at how many times the song was actually performed, but also how complete
the song was when it was performed (for instance, "Musical Box,"
while featured in 10 tours, was not always played every night of each
of those tours, and for a lot of them only the last few minutes of the
song were played). Technically, the drum duet should be tied with "Los
Endos" for second place, but I'm not actually sure that the drum
duet belongs in this list at all (see my entry for it below for more info).
The Knife
Tours: FGTR,
Trespass, NC, Foxtrot, SEBTP, Lamb, WW, Duke, Abacab. Was reputedly
played at the band's very first gig. It may not have been an encore at
that historic event, but it soon became the standard ending number and
trademark of the band, and remained a regular encore for quite a while.
It became more and more rare as time went on, however. It was not played
nearly every night of the SEBTP tour or even the Foxtrot tour, may have
only been played thrice during the Lamb tour, only thrice during the WW
tour, perhaps a dozen times on the Duke tour, and only once on the Abacab
tour (the very last gig, 23/12/81 at the NEC in Birmingham). Was also
played as the very last number of the reunion gig at Milton Keynes in
1982. When the Phil era band played this song, they used the studio version
lyrics and omitted the flute solo and a lot of the guitar parts. The only
recorded times that I know of when this song was not an encore was when
it was played as the very first number: at the Reading Festival of 11
August 1972, and at a special gig at the Kennington Oval on 30 September
'72.
The Musical Box
Tours: Trespass
(perhaps earlier??), NC, Foxtrot, SEBTP, Lamb, WW, ATTW3, Duke, Mama,
WCD. This song wins for being the song included in the most tours:
10, at least. I don't really believe this song was fully written until
Hackett joined the band during the Trespass tour (January 1971), but the
song did come from a guitar idea developed by Mike and Ant around '69
(and built upon by Mick Barnard in late '70), so it's always possible
that the band were playing this song in an embryonic stage during the
FGTR tour. Was a very regular number for every subsequent tour with Peter,
from '71-'75, but Phil as lead singer never sang the whole song. Its closing
section was only very rarely played during the ATTW3 and Duke tours (only
twice to my knowledge in 1980). It was part of two of the later incarnations
of the "Eleventh Earl of Mar" medley during the Mama tour, and
a regular part of the "Old Medley" of the WCD tour. Ray Wilson,
interestingly enough, did not touch this song.
Watcher of the Skies
Tours: NC (ending months), Foxtrot, SEBTP,
Lamb, ATOTT, 3SL. This song, surprisingly enough, barely makes
it onto this list, as it was only really played regularly and in its complete
form for two tours (Foxtrot and SEBTP). It was introduced around late
June of '72 and played for the ending months of the NC tour. It then became
the standard opening number of the Genesis set, remaining in that position
for the next two tours. It was a fairly regular second encore during the
Lamb tour, but was not played every night. Phil never sang this song live.
It only appeared in a severely edited instrumental form in two different
encore medleys, during the ATOTT tour (paired with "It") and
3SL tour (paired with "Lamb").
Supper's Ready
Tours: Foxtrot,
SEBTP, ATOTT, WW, ATTW3, 3SL, IT, CAS. (If you count the "Supper's
Ready in X Seconds" skit--which you shouldn't--it also appeared very,
very rarely in Abacab and Duke.) Though it did appear in many tours, the
whole song was only played regularly during the first four tours listed
and the 3SL tour (and even then, it was not played for the first months
of the Foxtrot tour, and also not played for the first few gigs of the
ATOTT tour). Only the ending sections were played on the ATTW3 tour, and
only once before an audience. The ending sections were also the only bits
played during the IT tour, and they were only played for the first few
months of the tour (as part of a unique "In the Cage" medley).
CAS featured only an acoustic version of the opening section of the song.
I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe)
Tours: SEBTP,
ATOTT, WW, ATTW3, Duke, Abacab, 3SL, WCD, TIOA. Unlike some of
the other songs above, this song was always played very regularly in every
tour it appeared in, so that even though it was not in as many different
tours as "Box" or "Knife," it was probably performed
more times--and, unlike "Box" and "Knife," it was
always played in its entirety. It did not really end up as an encore number
until ATTW3, though it was near the end of the ATOTT set. It remained
as an encore, however, from '78-'82. During the WCD tour it was a large
part of the "Old Medley" number. On the TIOA tour it returned
to the middle of the set. Probably of all the songs in this list, this
one was performed most often and most completely.
Firth of Fifth
Tours: SEBTP,
ATOTT, WW, Abacab, Mama, WCD, CAS, TIOA. Strange to think that
the Pete-era band only played this song regularly for one tour--the only
tour on which the piano intro was played, and even then not on every performance.
It was a regular number in complete form, sans piano intro, for all of
the ATOTT, WW, and Abacab shows. In an incomplete form, it was also present
in every version of the "Mar" medley on the Mama tour (for half
of the tour, the instrumental middle and the last verse were played; for
the second half, just the middle section was played). Its middle section
was played in the WCD tour's "Old Medley," and played outside
of a medley as a stand alone piece for the CAS tour (though some bootlegs
still label the song "Old Medley"--just to annoy me, I think).
The CAS form with just the instrumental section was also used on the TIOA
tour.
The Cinema Show
Tours: SEBTP,
ATOTT, ATTW3, Abacab, 3SL, Mama, TIOA. In stand alone form for
the first two tours listed. Basically the complete song was played during
ATTW3 as well, but as part of a medley with "In That Quiet Earth"
and "Afterglow." For the '81-'84 and '07 tours only the ending
instrumental section was played, as part of the "In the Cage"
medley. It was, of course, always played without the ending "Aisle
of Plenty" section. Also starting in '78 a small riff from "Riding
the Scree" was played in the middle of the instrumental part--this
probably happened every time it was played, but possibly not.
The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
Tours: Lamb,
ATOTT, WW, ATTW3, Abacab, 3SL, Mama, WCD, CAS. This song was played
a lot. Of course played every night of the Lamb tour, also every night
of the ATOTT tour as part of the "Lamb Stew." In the WW tour
it was the encore medley, paired with the closing section of "Musical
Box." It was played in this same form for a few nights of the ATTW3
tour. In the Abacab tour it was the third number in the set, played basically
as a stand alone (though "Duchess" kind of segued into it).
In the 3SL tour it returned to the position of encore, in a medley with
"Watcher." It was played without the keyboard intro. During
the Mama tour it was played in the final (albeit most-played) version
of the "Mar" medley. In the WCD tour, most but not all of it
was part of the "Old Medley," but in the CAS tour it occupied
the third position in the set as a stand alone number (as during the Abacab
tour).
In the Cage
Tours: Lamb,
ATTW3, Duke, Abacab, 3SL, Mama, IT, TIOA. Like IKWIL, this song
probably beats out most other songs on this list for times performed.
It was a very regular number in every tour it appeared in, and was always
played in its entirety, whether it was in a medley or not (actually it
was always missing the sort of meditative, hovering, quiet closing section
after the Lamb tour, but that hardly counts as it was a very tiny bit).
In fact, after ATTW3 it was always part of a medley--a medley that became
increasingly complex and tedious, until reaching critical mass during
the Mama tour. On the IT tour the band stepped back a bit and returned
to a much simpler form of the medley, and during the WCD tour the "Cage"
medley was dropped altogether in favor of the new "Old Medley"
(what a wonderful oxymoron that was!). The Ray Wilson band chose not to
attempt the song, but it was back again for the TIOA tour.
The Carpet Crawlers
Tours: Lamb,
ATOTT, WW, Duke, Abacab, Mama, WCD, CAS, TIOA. A regular in the
Lamb tour, and also a regular as part of the "Lamb Stew" in
the ATOTT set. Was a stand alone during WW, and as part of a pseudo-medley
during the Duke tour (where it was preceded by the introductory section
of "Moonlit Knight"). Was not played during the last month of
the Duke tour. Was also not played for the first few weeks of the Abacab
tour. Was played during the beginning months and the last few gigs of
the Mama tour, but not in the middle. Was only played on one occasion
during the WCD tour. It was, however, a regular of the CAS tour. It was
the second and final encore on the TIOA tour. From '81 onwards it was
always a stand alone, and from '76 onwards it was always played without
the opening verse.
Dance on a Volcano
Tours: ATOTT,
WW, ATTW3, Duke, Abacab, 3SL, WCD. Another one that was performed
a LOT--probably just about as much as "In the Cage." The only
time it was played in its entirety and as a stand alone was during the
ATOTT tour. After this tour, the closing instrumental section or "Dance"
was removed from the song. From '77-'81 it was in a medley with a drum
duet and "Los Endos" as the closing number. In the 3SL tour
it was back in the opening position, outside of its normal medley (though
it did sort of segue into "Behind the Lines"). It was the opening
number in the "Old Medley" of the WCD tour, but did not appear
in the CAS tour. For its spot in the "Old Medley," only the
first two verses were played.
Squonk
Tours: ATOTT,
WW, ATTW3, Duke, Mama. This one barely makes it to the list--it
was a regular and played in full for four tours in a row. During the Mama
tour, however, an incomplete version of it was only played in the first
two versions of the "Mar" medley.
Los Endos
Tours: ATOTT,
WW, ATTW3, Duke, Abacab, 3SL, Mama, IT, TIOA. Was actually played
more times than "Volcano," because it remained in the set for
two tours after "Volcano" was dropped (though during the '91-'92
tour it was not played and "Volcano" was--this still puts it
one full tour ahead). As with its counterpart, it was only played in its
complete form and as a stand alone during the ATOTT tour--for every other
tour it was in a medley with the drum duet and was missing its opening
section. "Volcano" was taken out of the medley for the 3SL tour,
and for that tour and the two subsequent tours the medley was simply drums/Endos.
It was the same for the TIOA tour, with the unique difference that it
was not the closing song of the regular set--this was the only time in
the song's long live history that it did not end the set.
Drum Duet
Tours: WW, ATTW3,
Duke, Abacab, 3SL, Mama, IT, WCD, TIOA. This one is really kind
of iffy to put on here, as the drum duet was really an improvisation,
so technically from night to night it would be a different song. Also
from tour to tour the improvisation was based on a different starting
point or rhythmic framework (I think), so really we're talking a different
composition for at least each tour it appeared in. However, in principle
there was always a drum duet and it was always performed by the same people.
So if we grant that every drum duet can be considered the same "song,"
then this was a very oft-performed song. It was the linking piece for
every Volcano/Endos medley from '77-'81, and after that was paired with
just "Endos" for the 3SL, Mama and IT tours. During the WCD
tour it was all by its lonesome. With Phil and Chester both gone for the
CAS tour, the drum duet went the way of the dodo (song reference and pun
intended). But it was resurrected, back with Endos, for the TIOA tour.
Afterglow
Tours: WW, ATTW3,
Duke, Abacab, 3SL, Mama, IT, TIOA. A rock steady number in all
set lists from the year it was written ('77) until ten years later. In
the beginning months of the IT tour it was not played, because its place
was taken by the ending sections of "Supper's Ready," but for
every other tour it was probably played every night. It was always part
of a medley, except for a few nights of the WW tour, when "In That
Quiet Earth" was removed from the set; and once during the ATTW3
tour, when it was played in stand alone form (to cover over a technical
glitch). In 1978 it was normally in a medley with "Cinema Show,"
but from '80 on it was the ending part of the "In the Cage"
medley. Though it was often played near the end of the set, it was NEVER
the last number, no matter how many people seem to think it was.
Follow You Follow Me
Tours: ATTW3,
Duke, 3SL, Mama, IT, WCD, CAS, TIOA. Was not played for the last
couple weeks of the Duke tour, and was only played for the first few months
of the IT tour. For the WCD tour only a small bit of it was used in the
"Old Medley." During the CAS tour the song was played as part
of the acoustic set for probably every night of the tour, starting with
the earliest promotional appearances in December '97. During the 3SL tour
it was in a pseudo-medley with "Volcano" and BTL. For every
tour but 3SL and WCD it was a stand alone piece. On the TIOA tour Phil
sang this song from behind the drum kit, a rare occurrence for him.
Turn It on Again
Tours: Duke,
Abacab, 3SL, Mama, IT, WCD, CAS, TIOA. Other songs may have been
played on more tours, but few songs have been played as many damn times
as this song. It was probably played at every performance of every tour
it was in, plus all the one off gigs that Genesis have done over the years
(the reunion gig of '82, MSG '88, Knebworth '90, Cowdray Ruins '93; heck,
they even played it at the MMF dinner for Tony Smith in 2000). The CAS
tour went through a lot of set changes and started out with very short,
acoustic sets of only four songs in length--but this song was in every
single one of them. After the Duke tour, where it was played as part of
the Duke Suite in the middle of the set, it was always played towards
the end of the set. It did not become an encore number however until the
Mama tour, when the famous "Damn" medley was added onto its
end. The medley, in an altered form, was also used for the IT tour, but
for the WCD tour it was dropped. The Turn It on Again tour necessarily
featured this song in the set, this time right near the beginning of the
show instead of at the end. They've played a lot of songs over the years,
but very few of them as regularly and as often as this one.
Here are some runners-up, that came really close to getting in: '...in
that quiet earth.' (which was played for four solid tours, mostly
as part of the "Cage" medley--it was just under the cut-off),
Misunderstanding (was actually in five different tours, but only
partially and not every night--not enough to make up even 4 tours worth
of performances), Abacab (played regularly for four tours;
just under the cut-off), Mama (played every tour since it was written,
though not every night of the WCD or CAS tours), Home by the Sea/Second
Home by the Sea (same as with "Mama," this one was in every
tour since '83--it was performed quite a bit more than "Mama,"
actually, since "Mama" was dropped a little into the WCD tour,
while HBTS was played every night of that tour). There are also three
big ones from the IT album which were played very often on every succeeding
tour, but were still just not around long enough to make the cut: Invisible
Touch, Land of Confusion and Domino.
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Medleys
Ever since the early days of the Phil era, Genesis has been
making use of the medley, probably as a device to cram a lot of their
songs together, as after a while they developed quite a bit of material
and wanted to fit as much of it in a concert as possible to please the
most fans. These medleys I have taken from McMahan's discography list,
with corroboration from the a-z site and some little touches of my own
(I went a little broader than some with the definition of "medley,"
and included almost any songs that faded or segued into one another).
They are listed chronologically in order of when they were first played
live, though some of the more successful medleys--like the Volcano/drum/Endos,
the In the Cage and the Turn It on Again--were used again in subsequent
tours. I have at least one version of every one of these medleys on bootleg,
except some variations on the "Turn It" medley and the "Cage"
medley without "Riding the Scree"--I don't believe the latter
actually exists.
1976 (AToTT tour)
-Lamb Stew: The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway/Fly on a Windshield and Broadway
Melody of 1974 (instrumental)/The Carpet Crawlers
-It/Watcher of the Skies
-I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe)/Stagnation (theme)
The "Lamb Stew" number went by many other similar
names, such as "Lamb Cutlet" or "Lamb Casserole."
It was always considered to be only three songs, but I maintain that the
instrumental piece between "Lamb" and "Crawlers" has
bits from both "Fly" and "Broadway Melody." Phil would
toss in little lines from non-Genesis songs into the middle of "I
Know..." if they happened to mention the city Genesis was playing
at the time; for instance he sings "Chicago, chicago..." at
the Uptown Theatre, and "I love Paris in the springtime" on
the Seconds Out album. Also on the version from Seconds Out,
a very small riff from "Dancing With the Moonlit Knight"
is played for about ten seconds; I'm not sure how often they did this,
but it occurs in many of my bootlegs from the WW tour and some from the
ATOTT tour. I have also become convinced that at some point in the song's
live history (perhaps as early as '76), Tony started throwing in a little
instrumental theme during the ending half of IKWIL that is actually the
theme to "Visions of Angels," if you can believe that; listen
to the song very closely and recall the opening of "Visions"
and you may hear what I mean--it's kind of like trying to recognize the
theme of "Wot Gorilla?" in that one section of "One For
the Vine."
1977 (W&W tour)
-Lilywhite Lilith/Waiting Room/Wot Gorilla? (first show only)
-Dance on a Volcano/drum duet/Los Endos
-The Lamb/The Musical Box (closing section)
-'...in that quiet earth.'/Afterglow
1978 (ATTW3 tour)
-Dancing with the Moonlit Knight (almost complete)/Musical Box (more than
closing section)
-The Cinema Show/Riding the Scree/'...in that quiet earth.'/Afterglow
The "Moonlit Knight" medley is very rare, and
was probably only played at the famous Uptown Theatre gig.
1980 (Duke tour)
-Dancing with the Moonlit Knight (opening)/Carpet Crawlers
-Dancing with the Moonlit Knight (opening)/Squonk
-The Duke Suite (or the Story of Albert): Behind the Lines/Duchess/Guide
Vocal/Turn It on Again/Duke's Travels/Duke's End
-In the Cage/The Colony of Slippermen (The Raven)/Afterglow
1981-2 (Abacab and 3SL tours)
-Drum duet/Los Endos
-In the Cage/Cinema Show/The Colony of Slippermen (The Raven)/Afterglow
-In the Cage/Cinema Show/Riding the Scree/The Raven/Afterglow
-Behind the Lines/Duchess/The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
-Dance on a Volcano/Behind the Lines/Follow You Follow Me
-The Lamb/Watcher of the Skies
The third and second to last medleys listed are sort-of
medleys; the first three numbers played in the Abacab and 3SL set respectively,
they segued into each other, giving the impression of a medley. "Volcano"
was played without its ending "Dance" section.
1983-4 (Mama tour)
-Eleventh Earl of Mar (opening section)/Ripples/Squonk/Firth of Fifth
-Eleventh Earl of Mar (instrumental)/Squonk/Firth of Fifth
-Eleventh Earl of Mar (instr)/Behind the Lines/Firth of Fifth/The Musical
Box (closing section)
-Eleventh Earl of Mar (instr)/Lamb/Firth of Fifth/The Musical Box (closing
section, from "I've been waiting here for so long...")
-In the Cage/Cinema Show/Riding the Scree/'...in that quiet earth.'/Raven/Afterglow
-Keep It Dark/It's Gonna Get Better (sort of a medley)
-Turn it On Again (oldies medley: Everybody Needs Somebody to Love/(I
Can't Get No) Satisfaction/The Last Time/All Day and All of the Night/In
the Midnight Hour)
-Turn it On Again (more contemporary medley: Everybody Needs Somebody
to Love/(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction/Twist and Shout/All Day and All
of the Night/Baby Let Me Take You Home/Karma Chameleon/Every Breath You
Take/Pinball Wizard/In The Midnight Hour)
(there were variations on these medleys, and sometimes the following songs
also appeared: Born In The USA, Glad All Over, Going Back to Miami, Sunshine
of Your Love, You Really Got Me.)
The "Mar" medley is an interesting one; it went
through many evolutions, as you see, and the first three were only played
on a few occasions each before being dropped. Also none of them were featured
on any of the radio shows or videos from this tour, for whatever odd reason.
A hard medley to get a hold of, unless you know where to trade for audience
boots...
1986-7 (IT tour)
-In the Cage/'...in that quiet earth.'/Supper's Ready (from Apocalypse
in 9/8)
-In the Cage/'...in that quiet earth.'/Afterglow
-Turn It on Again (medley: Everybody Needs Somebody to Love/(I Can't Get
No) Satisfaction/Twist and Shout/Reach Out and I'll Be There/You've Lost
That Loving Feeling/Pinball Wizard/In the Midnight Hour)
(some versions also included Baby Let Me Take You Home and It's My Life)
There was also a version of the Turn It on Again medley played at the
Atlantic Anniversary concert at MSG in 1988 that went like this:
-Turn It On Again/Land of Confusion/Misunderstanding/Throwing It All Away/You
Can't Hurry Love/Shortcut to Somewhere/All I Need is a Miracle/Tonight,
Tonight, Tonight
1992 (WCD tour)
-Old Medley: Dance on a Volcano (first half)/The Lamb (first half)/The
Musical Box (closing section)/Firth of Fifth (instrumental)/I Know What
I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (with small bits from: That's All/Illegal Alien/Your
Own Special Way or Misunderstanding/Follow You Follow Me/Stagnation, and
possibly others)
-Tonight, Tonight, Tonight/Invisible Touch
2007 (TIOA tour)
-Behind the Lines/Duke's End/Turn It on Again
-In the Cage/The Cinema Show/Riding the Scree/Duke's Travels/Afterglow
NOTES: Some medleys are not as linear as they may
appear; for instance, the "Lilywhite Lilith" medley sort of
places "Wot Gorilla?" in the middle of a light "Waiting
Room" sandwich, and all of the "Turn It on Again" medleys
return to "Turn It on Again" at the end. Also "Riding the
Scree" is stuck sort of in the middle of the "Cinema Show"
section in medleys where it appears. McMahan places "'Unquiet Slumbers...'"
in the much later "In the Cage/.../Apocalypse in 9/8" medley,
but as I said above in the "Never Played Live"
list, this is an error. The presence of the riff from "Riding the
Scree" in medleys containing "Cinema Show" is not often
mentioned, but it is there--in fact, I think it's always there, but as
it is possible that it is not, I have also included a version of the medley
without "Scree."
Some that I have listed as medleys are really just one song
that kind of segues into another, and if I opened up the guidelines a
little more I could have included several other segues (for instance,
during the Mama tour "Misunderstanding" kind of segued into
"Turn It on Again," as during the second half of the Duke tour
it had segued into the "Cage" medley--also "Man on the
Corner" segued into "Who Dunnit?" and "Dodo/Lurker"
segued into "Abacab" during the Abacab and Mama tours), but
I didn't want to go crazy. It's interesting to note that every Genesis
tour featuring Phil as lead singer had medleys as part of its set list;
but as soon as Phil left the band, medleys were dropped. It's quite possible
that Mike and Tony do not approve of the piecemeal quality of the medley,
and it was mainly Phil pushing them to incorporate it into the gigs. Or
it could be that removing the medleys was an attempt to make Ray's job
easier on the CAS tour.
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Pete-Era
Songs Played by Phil-Era Band
This is another list also featured in McMahan's discography,
but mine is (as always) slightly different in structure. Songs are listed
chronologically as they appeared on studio albums. The information on
when they were played has been gathered from the a-z web site and confirmed
where possible by live recording evidence. Some of these songs did not
appear in my "Rarely Played" list, because
they were played often by the Pete-era line-up; but they may have been
played only a few times by the Phil line-up. It's also just interesting
to see which of the old songs they stuck with and which they dumped. Keep
in mind, when I talk about when these songs were played I don't include
whether they were played during the reunion gig at Milton Keynes; for
a look at what was played there, you can either consult my tour
page for that in the live recordings section or check out my list
of set lists. This list was a natural successor to the medleys list, as
many of the old tunes were only rehashed in medley form.
-White Mountain (possibly during early gigs, then
during the ATOTT tour; perhaps rehashed because Phil had a good voice
for it. Anyone with a good ATOTT boot (like me) can get a copy of Phil
doing this song)
-Visions of Angels (I have a theory that the theme of this was
used in I Know What I Like, possibly for a lot of the performances of
that song from '76-'92)
-Stagnation (theme used in I Know What I Like, on almost every
tour from 76 on)
-The Knife (rare encore number during WW, Duke and Abacab tours;
only 23-25/6/77 of WW tour, and only 23/12/81 during Abacab tour. I believe
it was usually if not always a shortened version, and I further believe
that Phil sang the lyrics from the studio version, not the altered lyrics
that Pete usually used live)
-The Musical Box (the closing section was often used
in medleys, and as a stand alone during the Duke tour (at least
two recorded times in June 1980), but Phil never sang the whole thing--though
there are rumours he did, during the ATTW3 tour. During the WW tour the
regular encore was Lamb/Box, and this encore recurred on very rare occasions
during the ATTW3 tour, a tour which also featured the rare Moonlit Knight/Box
medley. It also appeared in the last two versions of the Mar medley from
the Mama tour, and in the Old Medley during the WCD tour)
-The Fountain of Salmacis (ATTW3 tour, but not always; it was dropped
towards the end)
-Watcher of the Skies (appeared in two different
medleys: with It during Trick tour, and with the Lamb during the 3SL tour;
listed above (interesting to note that both times it appeared in the Phil
era it was in an encore and it was attached to the end of a song from
the Lamb album). Only instrumental)
-Supper's Ready (ATOTT, WW, ATTW3 (apparently only once in front
of an audience, from Apocalypse in 9/8, 14/6/78; but also on rehearsal
boot from this tour), 3SL, and as part of a medley with In the Cage during
part of the IT tour (from Apocalypse in 9/8 on). Also on the Duke and
Abacab tours, there was sometimes a little skit performed called "Supper's
Ready in X Seconds" (the length varied, but was usually very short--between
10 and 16) in which Phil sang snippets of the lyrics very rapidly)
-Dancing With the Moonlit Knight (most of the song
was played as part of a medley with Musical Box in probably only one show
of the 1978 tour (in this version Phil replaced the "With a twist
of the world we go" line with "With a trick of the tail we go");
the Duke tour featured the opening section in two different medleys (it
segued into Crawlers for the first half of the tour and into Squonk for
the second half). Also on several occasions on the W&W tour and sometimes
during the ATOTT tour (though probably not during any tour afterwards,
as I think this was mainly Hackett's idea), a very small bit of one guitar
riff from this song was included in I Know What I Like)
-I Know What I Like (in Your Wardrobe) (every tour since ATOTT
but Mama and IT, and the whole song was part of the Old Medley on the
WCD tour. During one playing on the ATTW3 tour at the MSG (29/7), Pete
joined them. If they are sick of playing any one song, it must be this
one)
-Firth of Fifth (ATOTT, WW, Abacab. The instrumental section was
used in medleys during the Mama and WCD tours--during part of the Mama
tour, the last verse was also included. The instrumental section was played
as a sort of stand-alone during the TIOA reunion tour (though technically
it segued into I Know What I Like). The piano intro was never played)
-The Cinema Show (ATOTT; most of the song was played as a medley
with '...in that quiet earth' during the ATTW3 tour, and thereafter in
the Abacab, 3SL, Mama and TIOA tours the ending instrumental section was
played as part of the In the Cage medley)
From THE LAMB...
(Interesting piece of trivia: starting from the actual tour for the album,
no regular Genesis set list from '74 all the way up to 1998 has been without
at least one number from the Lamb. This is some impressive live performance
longevity for an album to have, I think.)
-The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (appeared on every Phil-era tour
since ATOTT except Duke and IT, but always as part of a medley--EXCEPT
during the Abacab tour, when it was played in basically a stand alone
version, though I have it listed as a sort of medley in my medleys list,
above. In most medleys, the whole song was played. If you're wondering
what medley it was in from the ATTW3 tour, it occurred only a very few
times when they played the last year's encore of Lamb/Box)
-Fly on a Windshield (ATOTT, part of the Lamb Stew, instrumental
only)
-Broadway Melody of 1974 (ATOTT, part of the Lamb Stew, instrumental
only)
-In the Cage (ATTW3 by itself, but from Duke to IT and TIOA as
part of varying medleys)
-Back in NYC (at the beginning of the Duke tour it opened the set,
then for one gig it was played a little further in to the set. Then it
was dropped altogether for some time. Later in the '80 tour, at MSG (and
possibly one or two other spots in the US), it was played as an encore)
-The Carpet Crawlers (ATOTT, as part of Lamb Stew; WW; Duke, in
a medley with Moonlit Knight for most of the tour; Abacab, every night
excepting the first few gigs; a few nights of the Mama tour; one time
on the WCD tour (23/10/92); and the last encore in every show of the TIOA
tour (except the show where they didn't play the encores!). In all cases
the opening verse ("There is lamb's wool under my naked feet...")
was dropped, and it started with "The crawlers cover the floor...")
-Lilywhite Lilith/The Waiting Room (played only once, on the first
night of WW tour in a medley with Wot Gorilla?)
-The Colony of Slippermen (the Raven) (played in medleys with In
the Cage, instrumental only, Duke, Abacab, 3SL and Mama tours)
-Riding the Scree (played in medleys with Cinema Show, main riff
only, ATTW3, Abacab, 3SL, Mama, TIOA)
-It (played in medley with Watcher of the Skies, ATOTT tour; a
good deal of the lyrics were taken out of It, and Watcher was only the
instrumental opening and conclusion)
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Mystery
List
Try to guess what these songs have in common:
Horizons
Ripples
Keep It Dark
Hint: It has to do with when they were played live.
Can't guess?
Answer: These are all songs that were only played
live after the tour for the album they appeared on. For instance,
though "Horizons" was on the Foxtrot album, it was not
played live until the tour for Selling England. "Ripples,"
though released on '76's A Trick of the Tail, was not played live
until the 1978 And Then There Were Three tour--it was subsequently
a regular number in that tour and the 1980 tour, as well as appearing
in edited form for a few shows of the Mama tour. "Keep It
Dark" was on the 1981 Abacab album but was only played during
the '83-'84 Mama tour, in a sort-of medley with "It's Gonna
Get Better" and (if you really want to stretch the definition of
"medley") "Follow You Follow Me."
I believe I'm being accurate here, and these are the only
songs in Genesis history which have this admittedly strange distinction.
Why did the band wait before playing these songs live? Probably for different
reasons. "Horizons" may have been delayed because the band wanted
to stick to their more impressive group material during the Foxtrot
tour--and maybe Steve was too uncomfortable at that time to play all
by his lonesome on stage. "Ripples" waited two tours before
getting played live, until Daryl became the guitarist and Steve left--perhaps
the line-up change is part of the reason why it got played. Who knows,
maybe Steve hated that song! And maybe the band ignored "Keep It
Dark" because of its simplicity and repetitiveness, until they realized
it would be a nice segue into the then-new "It's Gonna Get Better."
Another possible list in this vein would be those
songs that were played live before they were released in studio
recorded form. However, this list would be harder to compile, as it would
require digging into the band's not-very-well-recorded early history,
when they did things like play songs live as soon as they were written.
The list would actually include none of the songs from the band's first
album, as their first live gig was not played until after that album's
release (FGTR came out in March '69; first gig was in September of that
year). It would, however, probably include all of the songs from Trespass
(in fact, the way the Trespass album was constructed probably
involved the band picking and choosing six numbers from their very varied
live repertoire at that time, and putting them on a record) and some of
the songs from Nursery Cryme (definitely "Musical Box,"
probably "Salmacis" and "Hogweed"). "Watcher
of the Skies," "Get 'em Out by Friday," and "Can-Utility
and the Coastliners" would also be included, as they ended up on
Foxtrot but entered the band's live set during the NC tour. After
this, the band waited until they had stuff recorded before playing it
live.
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Band Formations Through the Ages
This is a chronology of the various line-ups of Genesis.
I included as much of the earlier, formative bands as I could, but I didn't
get into all the solo members' touring bands or the various members of
Phil's jazz band, Brand X. The information here is taken from McMahan's
discography (he got it from a "family tree" by Peter Frame,
made in 1978 and printed in Armando Gallo's book; and an updated version
printed in a Japanese release of Tony Banks' Soundtracks), Hewitt's
book, and a re-print of Frame's tree in the booklet for the first box
set (I strained my eyes for that one, as it was mysteriously re-printed
at a microscopic size). Also much information about the state of the band
during 1970 was provided by José Carlos Maltez, who did a lot of
research in other Genesis books and interviews that I do not own, and
passed his findings on to me. Not all of the early band line-ups are known,
and there were lots of changes, as you'll see. I also included the years
the line-ups existed, when I was able to find out, and various bits of
appropriate trivia, including a general idea of what instruments everyone
played.
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